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Bounded line intersections of blocking sets in every finite projective plane

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completion_obstruction: An exact Bernoulli calculation leaves quadratically many empty and overloaded lines, while maximal arcs force any exchange adding a point to remove linearly many points; these obstruct specified repair rules, not every absorbing construction.

covering_polynomial: Duality turns a blocker into a covering line arrangement, whose characteristic polynomial and logarithmic freeness are explicit. A tangent-line normalization gives exact split-polynomial divisibilities; neither interface supplies the fixed-degree structure needed for a negative answer.

curve_reduction: A source estimate for lines missing nonlinear curves survives exceptional points. Derangement densities give the exact coefficient needed by a sufficient extraction argument for minimal bounded-cap blocking sets; the structural premise remains unproved.

evidence/: Exact finite checks of prime-plane witnesses, characteristic-two conics, maximal-arc repair obstructions, restricted Singer searches, single orbits and pencil counts for conics and cubics, together with numerical reproduction of explicitly heuristic estimates.

identities: Moment, pencil and variance identities for line loads, a lower bound on the number of changed lines when each load change is smaller than q, and a modular form of the pencil identity.

parity_construction: Three conics give cap six in PG(2,2^h) for h at least two; the proof uses additive characters, while a specified multiplicative identity for distinct conics in odd characteristic is impossible and additive graphs force cap at least p.

pencil_threshold: A pencil count shows that a bounded-cap blocking set has at least p minus O(sqrt(p)) points off any curve of fixed degree in sufficiently large prime planes. The author-recorded proof uses tame monodromy and uniform Chebotarev; the positive-proportion extraction premise needed for a negative answer remains unproved.


Problem 1159 asks for one absolute constant CC such that every finite projective plane has a point set meeting every line in at least 11 and at most CC points. This account proves neither answer. Its positive sketch lacks a cap-preserving completion rule; its negative sketch lacks a uniform structural theorem for arbitrary point sets. It retains the following supporting work at author standing:

  • All-plane identities, including the precise hypotheses of the exchange-footprint bound. A bound on changed lines does not rule out a move involving few points.
  • Exact completion obstructions: an independent random start has quadratically many empty and overloaded lines, and explicit maximal arcs force linearly many deletions whenever an exchange adds a point. The latter disproves a bounded-deletion rule that advances coverage in every move from every cap-bounded state, not every absorbing strategy.
  • A three-conic construction with cap six in PG(2,2h)(2,2^h) for h≥2h\ge2, a known kind of result, and limitations of specified extensions to odd characteristic.
  • Exact finite witnesses and searches in prime planes, with an independent-load heuristic whose numbers are not bounds.
  • A complete conditional negative argument: a uniform bounded-degree approximation theorem would make c(PG⁡(2,p))c(\operatorname{PG}(2,p)) tend to infinity. The approximation theorem remains unproved; the implication uses the stated source estimate for lines missing curves, at its disclosed reading depth.
  • A pencil count proving that a bounded-cap blocking set in PG(2,q)(2,q) with qq odd has at least q−O(q)q-O(\sqrt q) points off any bounded union of lines and conics. A proof using tame monodromy and uniform Chebotarev extends this to every curve of bounded degree in sufficiently large prime planes. Then a fixed positive proportion extracted onto curves of fixed degree from every bounded-cap set of at least (1−ε)p(1-\varepsilon)p points would answer the problem negatively. That extraction premise is not proved for any cap above two.

Prime planes are a sufficient family for a possible negative answer and an unresolved part of the positive question. Even a positive construction there would leave other Desarguesian and non-Desarguesian planes to handle.

Target and conventions

For a finite projective plane Π\Pi of order qq, with N=q2+q+1N=q^2+q+1 points and lines, let c(Π)c(\Pi) be the least integer CC for which some point set SS has 1≤∣S∩ℓ∣≤C1\le|S\cap\ell|\le C for every line ℓ\ell. A line itself shows c(Π)≤q+1c(\Pi)\le q+1. The question is whether sup⁡Πc(Π)\sup_\Pi c(\Pi) is finite over all finite projective planes. A positive answer needs one bound for every plane, Desarguesian or not, of every order. A negative answer needs an infinite family of planes on which c(Π)c(\Pi) is unbounded, which means excluding every point set, not only curves, random sets or the output of one algorithm. The size of SS, cover numbers of line families and completeness of arcs are different parameters. Szőnyi's survey writes property B(c)B(c) for a blocking set with fewer than cc points on every line, so B(c)B(c) means cap c−1c-1. Below, the load of a line is xℓ=∣S∩ℓ∣x_\ell=|S\cap\ell| and tit_i is the number of lines with load ii.

Held results and their standing

  • L27, author-recorded at tier 0: c(Π)≥4c(\Pi)\ge4 when q≥5q\ge5. At cap four its proof gives the size interval s∈4q+52±24q+92s\in\frac{4q+5}2\pm\frac{\sqrt{24q+9}}2 and the identity t2+t3=−12(s2−(4q+5)s+4N)≤(24q+9)/8t_2+t_3=-\frac12\bigl(s^2-(4q+5)s+4N\bigr)\le(24q+9)/8, so almost every line has one or four points.
  • The Erdős–Silverman–Stein corollary: for every a>2ea>2e and every plane of sufficiently large order qq, c(Π)<alog⁡qc(\Pi)<a\log q. Statement read; proof not audited here.
  • Statements reported in Szőnyi's 1992 survey, printed p. 102, read from the page image; none of the originals was read. Abbott and Liu (Ars Combin. 20 (1985), 217–220): for PG(2,q)(2,q) with qq an odd prime power, the condition c>2ec>2e of the Erdős–Silverman–Stein bound clog⁡qc\log q may be replaced by c>2/log⁡2c>2/\log2. Ughi (Geom. Dedicata 26 (1988), 241–245): in PG(2,q)(2,q), qq odd, a union of cc conics never blocks every line once qq is large compared to cc. Bruen and Fisher (Pacific J. Math. 53 (1974), 73–84): PG(2,3r)(2,3^r) has cap 44. Boros (Ars Combin. 25 (1988), 111–114): PG(2,pr)(2,p^r) with pp an odd prime has a blocking set of 2pr2p^r points with cap p+1p+1. Illés, Szőnyi and Wettl (1991): PG(2,2r)(2,2^r) has cap 55 for even rr and 66 for odd rr.
  • Kahn's theorem on random line families (doi:10.1007/BF01305234) controls the cover number of a uniformly random family of at least 22(q+1)log⁡(q+1)22(q+1)\log(q+1) full lines. In the dual form of Problem 1159, a family of lines covering every point between 11 and CC times, that many lines already force an average point degree of at least 22log⁡(q+1)22\log(q+1). The theorem is therefore no input here.

Together: cc is bounded on the Desarguesian planes of each fixed characteristic pp, by p+1p+1 for odd pp and by 66 when p=2p=2. For the prime-order planes PG(2,p)(2,p) the bounds read are logarithmic, and for non-Desarguesian planes only the Erdős–Silverman–Stein bound applies. This summarizes the material read, not a complete survey.

The elementary proofs and finite checks here are author-recorded by Plasma AI, without independent review. The curve reduction additionally uses an explicitly cited source theorem; it does not independently verify that theorem or establish its own structural premise.

Positive direction: the whole argument and where it breaks

A possible route chooses an absolute cap CC, constructs a partial set S0S_0, and then covers the remaining lines while controlling every load. One proposed start samples points independently with probability λ/q\lambda/q and trims overloaded lines. It gives a cap-bounded partial set, but no useful completion invariant is proved for the resulting state. For fixed λ,C\lambda,C, the exact random-start calculation shows quadratically many empty and overloaded lines before trimming. Deleting all points would also satisfy the cap, so the upper bound by itself says nothing about the distribution after that operation.

The complete conditional construction is:

  1. Specify a family I\mathcal I of states in every plane and an absolute integer CC. Construct an initial state S0∈IS_0\in\mathcal I, with each line load at most CC.
  2. For S∈IS\in\mathcal I, let U(S)U(S) be its empty lines and TC(S)T_C(S) its lines of load CC. If U(S)U(S) is empty, return SS.
  3. Otherwise construct R⊆SR\subseteq S and AA disjoint from SS such that S′=(S∖R)∪AS'=(S\setminus R)\cup A belongs to I\mathcal I, every line has new load at most CC, every covered line stays covered, and at least one line of U(S)U(S) becomes covered. The exact load change on each line is −∣R∩ℓ∣+∣A∩ℓ∣-|R\cap\ell|+|A\cap\ell|.
  4. Repeat. The number of empty lines strictly decreases, so in at most q2+q+1q^2+q+1 moves the output meets every line in 11 to CC points.

Step 4 is proved once the preceding conditions hold. Steps 1 and 3 require a sufficient invariant and its repair construction; neither is supplied. An insertion is legal exactly when its point lies on no line of TC(S)T_C(S), and it advances coverage only if that point lies on an empty line. No count here guarantees such a point in a state produced by a specified process.

There is an exact reason not to set I\mathcal I equal to all cap-bounded partial sets and require only boundedly many deletions per move while each move covers a new line. For each fixed power of two C≥4C\ge4, the maximal-arc construction gives states in PG(2,2h)(2,2^h) with quadratically many empty lines, while any exchange adding an outside point requires at least q+1−q/Cq+1-q/C deletions. Thus this universal bounded-deletion premise is false. The example is not asserted to arise when each greedy insertion must hit an empty line, and it does not exclude a more selective state invariant, preparatory moves that only delete points, or exchanges with O(q)O(q) deletions.

The exchange-footprint lemma supplies a separate accounting constraint: when q>2Cq>2C, any nonzero change between cap-CC sets changes at least q+1q+1 line loads, and at least q+2q+2 unless it changes just one point. It supplies no lower bound on the point support of an absorber. Similarly, the variance identity fixes a second moment, not a tail distribution; it is compatible with bounded loads. There is no theorem here that random, greedy, nibble or absorption methods as a class must fail.

Reopening the positive route requires an explicit sufficient invariant and a construction of the moves in step 3, or a different all-plane construction. Merely asserting a completion for an arbitrary partial set leaves the desired construction missing.

Constant-cap mechanisms in special planes and their limits

The parity page proves that three conics γX2=YZ\gamma X^2=YZ with γ1+γ2+γ3=0\gamma_1+\gamma_2+\gamma_3=0 meet every line of PG(2,2h)(2,2^h), h≥2h\ge2, in 11 to 66 points. For each slope, meeting a conic is an affine condition over F2\mathbb F_2 on the intercept, and the linear relation forces an odd number of the conditions to hold. The same page limits two extensions. For qq odd, meeting a conic is governed by a quadratic character of a quadratic form in the line coordinates, and distinct conics admit no multiplicative identity that would play the role of the relation. In characteristic pp, any point set containing the graph of an Fp\mathbb F_p-linear map meets some line in at least pp points, and for prime qq such graphs are lines. Every constant-cap result read uses a fixed characteristic, and the caps obtained grow with pp. Subplane-type objects, Baer subplanes and unitals, have caps q+1\sqrt q+1.

In prime order the structured candidates in the material read are curves, and Ughi's theorem excludes bounded unions of conics. Random sets give logarithmic caps. These particular positive mechanisms give no uniform construction in PG(2,p)(2,p), and none is supplied for all non-Desarguesian planes.

Negative direction: a conditional full argument

The family PG(2,p)(2,p) with pp prime suffices for a disproof if its necessary caps can be shown unbounded. The curve reduction gives an end-to-end conditional argument. For each fixed cap CC, suppose there is a fixed degree D=D(C)D=D(C) such that every inclusion-minimal cap-CC blocking set in each sufficiently large prime plane lies on a degree-at-most-DD curve except for at most p/(4M(D))p/(4M(D)) points. Here M(D)M(D) is the maximum product of integers at least two with sum at most DD, explicitly evaluated on that page. Remove the curve's line components and its non-geometrically-irreducible components, losing at most CD+D2CD+D^2 further points. The remaining curve misses at least (1/M(D)−o(1))p2(1/M(D)-o(1))p^2 lines, uniformly at fixed degree, by the precise source estimate. The exceptional points hit at most (p/(4M(D))+CD+D2)(p+1)(p/(4M(D))+CD+D^2)(p+1) lines. Some line misses the minimal blocking set, a contradiction. Since every cap-CC blocking set contains a minimal one, this premise for every fixed CC would give c(PG⁡(2,p))→∞c(\operatorname{PG}(2,p))\to\infty.

The pencil count improves the tolerance. Through a point off YY pass about α(Y)p\alpha(Y)p of the missed lines, not p+1p+1, when the projection from that point has full monodromy. Exceptional points then number about pp rather than α(Y)p\alpha(Y)p before they can block all missed lines. This is proved for unions of lines and conics in PG(2,q)(2,q) with qq odd. For curves of bounded degree the author-recorded proof shows that the projection from a point off boundedly many special lines keeps the full product monodromy. It uses connectedness of an ample pullback, tame local ramification and Entin's uniform Chebotarev theorem, at the reading depths recorded on that page. With it, the negative answer follows from a positive-proportion premise: for each CC, a fixed fraction of every cap-CC set of at least (1−ε)p(1-\varepsilon)p points lies on a curve of fixed degree.

The source estimate is about curves, and the structural premise is about arbitrary sets. The latter bridge is unknown. A stronger conjecture, with o(p)o(p) exceptions at fixed degree, occurs in Green's commentary to Problem 68; it is not supplied as a theorem. Neither the source's curve obstruction nor the finite searches below prove this bridge.

Several restrictions guide a possible proof. A lower bound tending to infinity with qq and asserted for every plane is impossible: the cap is bounded for PG(2,2h)(2,2^h) and PG(2,3h)(2,3^h). A prime-plane argument can instead use primality, characteristic, or other hypotheses particular to its family. Incidence moments alone do not distinguish these families.

Also, membership of the load vector in the Fp\mathbb F_p-code spanned by pencils, together with residues in a bounded range, is too weak. This code contains the all-one word (the sum of all pencils) and hence the word 1+xO1+x_O for an oval OO, with entries in {1,2,3}\{1,2,3\}. L27 excludes an actual cap-three blocking set for p≥5p\ge5. This example refutes that particular relaxation; it does not exclude arguments over Fp\mathbb F_p that retain the indicator variables and their binary constraints.

An alternative way to retain multiplicities is the Rédei polynomial. Take a line of least load j≤Cj\le C as the line at infinity and let S′S' be the affine part. For every non-vertical slope mm whose point at infinity is not in SS,

∏(a,b)∈S′(T−b+ma)=(Tp−T) Gm(T),Gm(T)=∏c∈Fp(T−c)xm,c−1,\prod_{(a,b)\in S'}(T-b+ma)=(T^p-T)\,G_m(T),\qquad G_m(T)=\prod_{c\in\mathbb F_p}(T-c)^{x_{m,c}-1},

where xm,c∈[1,C]x_{m,c}\in[1,C] is the load of y=mx+cy=mx+c and deg⁡Gm=∣S′∣−p\deg G_m=|S'|-p. A direct approach requiring deg⁡Gm<p−1\deg G_m<p-1 only addresses ∣S′∣<2p−1|S'|<2p-1; no reason here confines every bounded-cap blocking set to that size range. The covering-polynomial route uses a tangent as the line at infinity to retain all nonvertical slopes, the upper-multiplicity divisibility and the essential-point condition. In the dual formulation Yoshinaga's theorem makes every covering arrangement free, but its basis degrees grow with pp. Neither interface yields the missing fixed-degree structure.

A cap-four polynomial test. There xm,c−1∈{0,3}x_{m,c}-1\in\{0,3\} except on the t2+t3≤(24p+9)/8t_2+t_3\le(24p+9)/8 lines with two or three points, so Gm=Um3VmG_m=U_m^3V_m with ∑mdeg⁡Vm≤(24p+9)/4\sum_m\deg V_m\le(24p+9)/4. In characteristic three a cube U(T)3U(T)^3 is a polynomial in T3T^3, and cap-four sets exist. For p≥5p\ge5 a theorem forcing a long secant from such near-cube specializations for all sufficiently large primes would force any universal cap to be at least five. The modular lemma adds, for 3∤q3\nmid q, that the lines with two or three points cover SS or cover its complement. The witness in PG(2,11)(2,11) below shows that such a theorem must exclude small primes or sporadic sets.

The near-cube identity is exact, but no theorem extracting a long secant or a curve of bounded degree from it is proved here. Even such a theorem only at cap four would leave all larger fixed caps unresolved.

Small orders and Singer-invariant sets

The evidence entry point checks three sets, retained in assets/cap4_witnesses.json, each meeting every line in one to four points.

OrderSizet1t_1t2t_2t3t_3t4t_4
51474119
7172171514
11218402821

In PG(2,11)(2,11) every point of the set lies on four lines of each of the sizes one, three and four, and there are no two-point lines. This incidence profile does not classify the set up to projective equivalence. In PG(2,9)(2,9) a Baer subplane meets every line in one or four points. So L27's bound four is attained for q=5,7,9,11q=5,7,9,11 and, by the reported Bruen–Fisher bound, for every power of three at least nine. Any proof that a universal cap must exceed four has to use other orders. These three sets were found by a weighted local search, which is not retained. The same search found nothing for cap four at q=13,17q=13,17 or cap five at q=23,…,37q=23,\dots,37, but it also failed on PG(2,64)(2,64) at cap six and PG(2,27)(2,27) at cap four, where sets are known to exist, so its failures are not evidence of nonexistence.

Singer-invariant sets. Identify the points of PG(2,p)(2,p) with Z/N\mathbb Z/N through a Singer cycle, so that the lines are the translates D+tD+t of a planar difference set DD. For M∣NM\mid N, a union of orbits of the subgroup of order N/MN/M is a union of residue classes r∈Kr\in K modulo MM, and it meets D+tD+t in ∑r∈Kμ(r−t)\sum_{r\in K}\mu(r-t) points, where μ(a)=∣{d∈D:d≡a(modM)}∣\mu(a)=|\{d\in D:d\equiv a\pmod M\}|. So an invariant set with all loads in [1,C][1,C] is a covering of Z/M\mathbb Z/M by translates of the single histogram μ\mu with multiplicities between 11 and CC. Because every nonzero residue modulo NN is a difference of DD exactly once, ∑aμ(a)=p+1\sum_a\mu(a)=p+1 and ∑aμ(a)μ(a+d)\sum_a\mu(a)\mu(a+d) equals p+N/Mp+N/M for d=0d=0 and N/MN/M otherwise. The load mean and variance are therefore fixed exactly, as in the identities for arbitrary sets. A depth-first search that branches on the least-covered class, implemented in util/singer.py, decides small cases exactly.

PlaneMMCapClassesPointsSymmetric estimateResult
PG(2,11)(2,11)193excluded by L27none, exhaustive
PG(2,11)(2,11)19432110−1.010^{-1.0}found
PG(2,13)(2,13)61410−2.210^{-2.2}none, exhaustive
PG(2,23)(2,23)795963102.310^{2.3}found
PG(2,29)(2,29)67567810−0.510^{-0.5}found
PG(2,37)(2,37)67510−3.210^{-3.2}none, exhaustive
PG(2,47)(2,47)61510−3.510^{-3.5}none, exhaustive
PG(2,31)(2,31)3316341021025.910^{25.9}found
PG(2,37)(2,37)2016171191011.010^{11.0}found
PG(2,61)(2,61)976100.010^{0.0}none, exhaustive
PG(2,67)(2,67)93610−0.910^{-0.9}none, exhaustive
PG(2,67)(2,67)1476721710−0.810^{-0.8}found

The found sets are retained in assets/singer_witnesses.json and checked by direct incidence counts over all lines, independently of the reduction; the exhaustive cases are rerun by the checker. The PG(2,11)(2,11) set has the same line types as the local-search witness above. The symmetric estimate is the first-moment count of the next section applied to these families: the number of class sets KK containing 00, times the probability, with the forced load mean and variance and the loads treated as independent, that all MM line orbits have loads in [1,C][1,C]. For the displayed cases, all estimates above 100100 accompany found witnesses, and all estimates below 0.010.01 accompany exhaustive failures within the specified symmetric family. Intermediate estimates have mixed outcomes. This is a description of this finite table, not a statistical test or a prediction theorem. A failure in one symmetry family leaves arbitrary point sets untouched. In particular the cap-five witness at p=29p=29 exceeds the heuristic unrestricted crossover 2323; that crossover is not a nonexistence bound.

Single orbits. The simplest invariant sets are single orbits. The points i≡0(modm)i\equiv0\pmod m form one orbit of the subgroup of index mm, and it meets D+tD+t in ∣{d∈D:d≡−t(modm)}∣|\{d\in D:d\equiv-t\pmod m\}| points. So a single orbit is blocking with cap CC exactly when every residue class modulo mm contains between 11 and CC elements of DD. For every prime 5≤p≤20005\le p\le2000 and every divisor m≥2m\ge2 of NN with m≤p+1≤8mm\le p+1\le8m, 269269 pairs in all, the evidence entry point computes these class counts. In 6868 pairs every class is hit, but the largest count is at most 88 only for (p,m)(p,m) equal to (7,3)(7,3), (13,3)(13,3), (37,7)(37,7), (67,21)(67,21), (79,21)(79,21), (83,19)(83,19) and (283,73)(283,73), with caps 44, 77, 88, 66, 66, 88 and 88. Beyond p=283p=283 every orbit that blocks has a class with at least 99 elements of DD, and for p>1500p>1500 the least such largest count is 1111. This scan supplies no uniform family and no asymptotic lower bound for single orbits beyond the stated range.

First-moment heuristic

For a set of KqKq points the identities fix the load mean KK and variance KK up to lower-order terms. Treating the NN loads as independent, the probability that all lie in [1,C][1,C] is about e−NDe^{-ND}, where D=D(K,C)D=D(K,C) is the least relative entropy D(ν ∥ Po(K))D(\nu\,\|\,\mathrm{Po}(K)) over distributions ν\nu on {1,…,C}\{1,\dots,C\} with mean KK and variance KK. There are about eKqlog⁡(eq/K)e^{Kq\log(eq/K)} sets of that size. In this independent-load model the crossover condition is Kqlog⁡(eq/K)≥q2DKq\log(eq/K)\ge q^2D. Maximizing the largest such qq over the grid of KK values in the evidence program gives the orders below.

CapMean loadHeuristic largest order
52.523
62.9570
73.35168
83.75360

This is an independent-load model, not an established probability law for point sets in a plane. It gives no bound on c(Π)c(\Pi). Structured planes contradict it: PG(2,2r)(2,2^r) has cap at most six for every rr, beyond the cap-six order 7070 from q=128q=128 on, and PG(2,3r)(2,3^r) has cap four. The failure of the model does not require every successful construction to have an algebraic description. The exact first two moments do not justify independence, and no concentration or counting theorem here controls the simultaneous line constraints for arbitrary sets.

How the contributions compose

The incidence identities hold in every plane. The exact maximal-arc trap applies to a stated class of partial sets, with fixed power-of-two cap, and refutes the bounded-deletion repair rule requiring a new covered line in every move from every cap-bounded state. The parity construction covers characteristic-two Desarguesian planes only; for fixed power-of-two caps at least eight it also gives a wholesale repair of the maximal-arc trap using OC(q)O_C(q) changed points. The conic-identity and additive-graph lemmas constrain their specified mechanisms. The witnesses and exhaustive searches are finite facts; the numerical load model has no mathematical warrant. The negative curve argument is conditional on a uniform approximation theorem and the stated source estimate. The pencil count is unconditional for unions of lines and conics in PG(2,q)(2,q) with qq odd and has an author-recorded proof for curves of arbitrary fixed degree in sufficiently large prime planes; with it positive-proportion extraction suffices for the negative answer. The covering-polynomial identities retain the blocking hypothesis but provide no extraction theorem. None of these qualifications is discharged by composing the results.

Next discriminating full-solution test

The full-solution target of the negative sketch reduces, through the pencil count, to the positive-proportion extraction premise for every fixed cap: a fixed fraction of every cap-CC set of at least (1−ε)p(1-\varepsilon)p points in a large prime plane lies on a curve of fixed degree, for some fixed ε>0\varepsilon>0. For arcs this follows from a theorem of Voloch reported in a survey; for caps of three or more no proof is known to us. It concerns arbitrary bounded-cap sets, which exist. A sufficient relative form instead concerns residuals which block the lines missing a given curve, with constants uniform through the extraction steps. Retaining the captured point set as well gives a stronger relative-minimality invariant with tangents. None of these extraction premises is proved.

The covering-polynomial route gives a different exact interface to the covering condition, but freeness and bounded local multiplicities alone do not force bounded derivation degree. Reopening it requires a structural use of the distinct linear factors and bounded fibre multiplicities.

Restricting the original approximation premise to minimal blockers is logically equivalent to nonexistence, given the source count. This does not exclude a proof by contradiction from their covering and tangent properties. In every curve route the degree must remain independent of pp; interpolation at degree O(p)O(\sqrt p) is insufficient.