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Independent investigation of Erdős problem 644


1. Outcome and scope of this record

Neither requested assertion was proved or disproved. No construction with a positive proportional excess over 3k/43k/4 was obtained, and no argument establishing convergence of f(k,r)/kf(k,r)/k for arbitrary fixed rr was found. This record separates proved claims, source results, numerical observations, and speculative mechanisms.

Only the supplied problem page and papers were consulted; there was no web browsing or use of earlier research notes. Results invoked from papers were checked in their source.md files. The relevant source results are:

  • Section 16 of the Erdős survey reports the exact coefficients for r=3,4,5,6r=3,4,5,6: 2,3/2,5/4,12,3/2,5/4,1.
  • Theorem 1 of the 1999 Fon-Der-Flaass--Kostochka--Woodall paper gives f(4q,7)≥3q+1f(4q,7)\ge3q+1 for q≥10q\ge10, using a parity construction.
  • Theorem 2 of that paper gives f(k,7)≤⌈7k/8⌉f(k,7)\le\lceil7k/8\rceil for every k≥8k\ge8.
  • The complete-family counting lower bound in Section 2 below is also Theorem 5.7 of the supplied Bucić--Korándi--Sudakov paper.

Thus the established unrestricted asymptotic bounds remain

34≤lim inf⁡k→∞f(k,7)k≤lim sup⁡k→∞f(k,7)k≤78.\frac34\le\liminf_{k\to\infty}\frac{f(k,7)}k \le\limsup_{k\to\infty}\frac{f(k,7)}k\le\frac78.

Detailed proofs of restricted results are also retained in complete_family_model.md, scaling_and_shifting.md, static_avoidance_analysis.md, two_profile_analysis.md, and fractional_cover_analysis.md. These are auxiliary records, not purported solutions to the original problem.

2. Conventions, compactness, and elementary bounds

Write PrP_r for the property that every subfamily with at most rr members has a transversal of size at most two. For a family having at least rr members, this is equivalent to testing exactly rr: extend a smaller offending family. A family with fewer members has transversal number at most r−1r-1, so the convention makes no asymptotic difference.

Finite families suffice for proving a fixed transversal bound. Indeed, if a family of nonempty finite sets has no tt-point transversal, it has a finite subfamily with the same property. Induct on tt. The case t=0t=0 is immediate. Choose an edge EE. For each v∈Ev\in E, the family of edges avoiding vv has no (t−1)(t-1)-point transversal; otherwise adding vv would cover the whole family. Choose a finite witness Gv\mathcal G_v by induction. Then {E}∪⋃v∈EGv\{E\}\cup\bigcup_{v\in E}\mathcal G_v is the required finite witness.

Complete-family lower bound for seven

Put n=⌊(7k−1)/4⌋n=\lfloor(7k-1)/4\rfloor and take all kk-subsets of [n][n]. Among seven edges, total incidence is 7k>4n7k>4n, so a point lies in at least five. The remaining at most two edges intersect since n<2kn<2k. Consequently the complete family satisfies P7P_7, while its transversal number is

n−k+1=⌈3k4⌉.n-k+1=\left\lceil\frac{3k}{4}\right\rceil.

This proves the 3/43/4 lower coefficient at every sufficiently large uniformity, not only along multiples of four.

The supplied parity construction has

∣S∣=7q+1,∣X∣=4q,B={B∈(S4q):∣B∩X∣ odd},τ(B)=3q+1.|S|=7q+1,\quad |X|=4q,\quad \mathcal B=\{B\in\tbinom S{4q}:|B\cap X|\text{ odd}\}, \quad\tau(\mathcal B)=3q+1.

Its ratio is 3/4+1/(4q)3/4+1/(4q), which tends to 3/43/4. The additive one therefore does not disprove the asymptotic assertion.

General linear order

The elementary upper bound is f(k,r)≤max⁡(2k,r−1)f(k,r)\le\max(2k,r-1). Under PrP_r, three disjoint edges are impossible, and the union of a maximal matching of at most two edges is a transversal.

For the lower bound take all kk-sets of a (k+t)(k+t)-set. Each edge misses (t2)\binom t2 pairs. Thus this family has PrP_r whenever

r(t2)<(k+t2).r\binom t2<\binom{k+t}2.

Its transversal number is t+1t+1. Taking t∼ckt\sim ck, for any c<1/(r−1)c<1/(\sqrt r-1), gives

1r−1≤lim inf⁡f(k,r)k≤lim sup⁡f(k,r)k≤2.\frac1{\sqrt r-1}\le\liminf\frac{f(k,r)}k \le\limsup\frac{f(k,r)}k\le2.

This proves Θr(k)\Theta_r(k), not the existence of a limit.

3. Two reformulations

Complement covering formulation

On a finite ground set VV, set B={V∖E:E∈H}\mathcal B=\{V\setminus E:E\in\mathcal H\}. Then:

  • τ(H)>t\tau(\mathcal H)>t means that every tt-subset of VV is contained in some member of B\mathcal B.
  • PrP_r means that no at most rr members of B\mathcal B cover all pairs of VV by containment.

Thus one seeks high-strength covering families for which the corresponding cliques cannot cover the complete graph using rr members. This is an exact reformulation, but no suitable scaling theorem for these covering families was established.

Incidence spectra

For labeled edges E1,…,EmE_1,\ldots,E_m, the spectrum of a point is S(v)={i:v∈Ei}⊆[m]S(v)=\{i:v\in E_i\}\subseteq[m]. The edges have no two-point transversal precisely when

S(v)∪S(w)≠[m]for every pair of points,S(v)\cup S(w)\ne[m]\quad\text{for every pair of points,}

also excluding a single spectrum equal to [m][m]. Equivalently their complement spectra form a pairwise-intersecting family.

For fixed rr, there are only finitely many possible spectrum supports on at most rr rows. This gives the complete-family result below. It does not by itself give a finite description or dilation of arbitrary families with large transversal number.

4. A proved limit theorem for complete families only

Let gr(k)g_r(k) be the minimum union size of a family of at most rr distinct kk-sets with transversal number greater than two. Then the complete kk-uniform family on nn points has PrP_r exactly when n<gr(k)n<g_r(k). Its largest possible transversal number is therefore gr(k)−kg_r(k)-k.

For 3≤m≤r3\le m\le r, consider a support Q⊆2[m]∖{∅}\mathcal Q\subseteq2^{[m]}\setminus\{\varnothing\} satisfying S∪T≠[m]S\cup T\ne[m] for all S,T∈QS,T\in\mathcal Q. For every feasible such support solve

min⁡∑S∈QwS,∑S∋iwS=1 (i∈[m]),wS≥0.\min\sum_{S\in\mathcal Q}w_S, \qquad \sum_{S\ni i}w_S=1\ (i\in[m]),\qquad w_S\ge0.

Let drd_r be the minimum over these finitely many rational linear programs. Then

gr(k)=drk+Or(1).\boxed{g_r(k)=d_rk+O_r(1).}

For the lower bound, divide every spectrum-class size of a bad family by kk. For the upper bound, take an optimal solution, create ⌊kwS⌋\lfloor kw_S\rfloor points of each spectrum, and privately pad each row to size kk. Only Or(1)O_r(1) points are needed. Padding cannot introduce a two-cover: an admissible support cannot contain [m]∖{i}[m]\setminus\{i\}, because the row equation for ii supplies another spectrum containing ii. Hence adjoining singleton spectra preserves the condition. Duplicate rows may be erased without changing the transversal number. This proves the formula and rationality of the complete-family coefficient dr−1d_r-1.

For r=7r=7, d7=7/4d_7=7/4. To see the lower bound, suppose a bad family has m≤7m\le7 edges on n<2kn<2k points. All pairs of edges intersect, so no point belongs to m−2m-2 or more edges: that point and one point in the remaining at most two edges would cover the family. Thus mk≤(m−3)nmk\le(m-3)n, giving n≥7k/4n\ge7k/4. The case m=3m=3 is impossible when n<2kn<2k. For the upper bound, the seven complements of the Fano lines are four-sets on seven points with no two-cover; blowing up their points gives union size 7k/47k/4 when 4∣k4\mid k.

Unresolved passage: no reduction from arbitrary extremal families to complete families was proved. In particular the finite LP does not prove the second assertion in the problem.

5. Fractional transversal calculations

For every finite rank-kk hypergraph,

τ(H)≤⌊k(τ∗(H)−1)⌋+1.\tau(\mathcal H) \le\lfloor k(\tau^*(\mathcal H)-1)\rfloor+1.

Let a fractional cover have total weight α\alpha, and select the s=⌊k(α−1)⌋+1s=\lfloor k(\alpha-1)\rfloor+1 largest-weight vertices. If an edge misses them, its at most kk weights have sum at least one, so its largest weight is at least 1/k1/k. Every selected weight is at least that large. Total weight is therefore at least s/k+1>αs/k+1>\alpha, a contradiction. If fewer than ss vertices exist, select all vertices.

A second proved bound uses the local property. Put s=⌈r/2⌉s=\lceil r/2\rceil. Then

τ∗(H)≤((rs)k)1/(s−1).\boxed{\tau^*(\mathcal H) \le\bigl(\tbinom rs k\bigr)^{1/(s-1)}.}

Normalize an optimal fractional matching of total weight W=τ∗W=\tau^* to a probability distribution on edges. Its vertex incidence probabilities satisfy pv≤1/Wp_v\le1/W and ∑vpv=k\sum_vp_v=k. Sample rr edges independently. Their distinct members have a two-cover, so some point lies in at least ss sampled edges. A union bound gives

1≤(rs)∑vpvs≤(rs)kW−(s−1).1\le\binom rs\sum_vp_v^s \le\binom rs kW^{-(s-1)}.

The exponent is attained in order by hyperplanes of projective space PG(s,q)\mathrm{PG}(s,q). Any ss hyperplanes meet, so any at most rr can be split into two intersecting groups. Here

k=(qs−1)/(q−1),τ∗=(qs+1−1)/(qs−1)≍q.k=(q^s-1)/(q-1),\qquad \tau^*=(q^{s+1}-1)/(q^s-1)\asymp q.

A projective line is a transversal; rounding the fractional lower bound shows τ=q+1\tau=q+1. These examples have sublinear τ\tau when r≥5r\ge5.

A bound τ∗≤7/4+o(1)\tau^*\le7/4+o(1) would suffice for the desired upper bound, but it is false for all P7P_7 families. Even two disjoint edges have τ∗=2\tau^*=2, and the projective examples have unbounded τ∗\tau^*. A useful version would require an additional structural hypothesis or a decomposition distinguishing linear-transversal families. None was proved.

6. Scaling attempts and a concrete shifting failure

Cloning: exact formula, but the verified local condition loses ratio

Replace each original vertex by NN clones. For each original edge, include all unions of ss-subsets of its clone classes. The new family has uniformity ksks and

τ′=(N−s+1)τ.\tau'=(N-s+1)\tau.

For a candidate transversal TT, let QQ consist of original vertices whose classes contain at least N−s+1N-s+1 points of TT. Then TT covers the expanded family if and only if QQ covers the original one.

A sufficient condition preserving PrP_r is r(N−s)<Nr(N-s)<N: at most rr chosen ss-subsets in a single class have a common clone. But with q=N−sq=N-s, the multiplier of the transversal-to-rank ratio is (q+1)/(N−q)(q+1)/(N-q), whose limsup under this condition is at most 1/(r−1)1/(r-1). Full-class cloning leaves τ\tau unchanged. This is a limitation of this verified criterion, not a proof that every possible cloning scheme fails.

The Cartesian union product of families on disjoint ground sets has uniformity ∑ki\sum k_i but transversal number min⁡iτi\min_i\tau_i: a transversal in one coordinate suffices; if none of the coordinate portions is a transversal, choose a missed edge in each coordinate. It preserves PrP_r if one factor has it, but does not add transversal numbers.

Tuza's supplied ISP composition makes set-pair parameters additive, but does not make the associated edge family's transversal number additive. Construction 15 repairs the transversal number by adjoining complements of small transversals. Those new edges can be much larger, and preservation of PrP_r was not established. This is not a Fekete argument for the second assertion.

Ordinary shifting does not preserve P7P_7

Use abcabc for {a,b,c}\{a,b,c\}. The family

H={015,024,025,034,123,125,134,234}\mathcal H=\{015,024,025,034,123,125,134,234\}

has P7P_7. On deleting the listed edges in order, respective two-covers are

23, 35, 14, 12, 45, 03, 02, 01.23,\ 35,\ 14,\ 12,\ 45,\ 03,\ 02,\ 01.

The 0←10\leftarrow1 shift replaces only 123123 by 023023. The shifted family contains

{015,023,024,034,125,134,234},\{015,023,024,034,125,134,234\},

whose complements are

234,145,135,125,034,025,015.234,145,135,125,034,025,015.

Their pair-shadows cover all fifteen pairs, so these seven edges have no two-cover. Padding extends this failure to every k≥3k\ge3: share padding within 025,125025,125 and within 034,134034,134, and use separate padding elsewhere. In the bad seven, a padding point hits at most two edges and an original point at most four, so pairs involving padding also fail.

These examples only refute preservation under shifting. Their transversal numbers stay bounded and do not refute the asymptotic assertion.

7. A seven-edge obstruction method and its limitation

Call A1,A2,A3A_1,A_2,A_3 a good triple when their common intersection is empty. Put

Xi=Aj∩Aℓ,Pi=Ai∖(Aj∪Aℓ),{i,j,ℓ}={1,2,3}.X_i=A_j\cap A_\ell,\qquad P_i=A_i\setminus(A_j\cup A_\ell),\qquad \{i,j,\ell\}=\{1,2,3\}.

Write xi=∣Xi∣x_i=|X_i|, s=x1+x2+x3s=x_1+x_2+x_3; then ∣Pi∣=k−s+xi|P_i|=k-s+x_i. The graph of pairs covering the triple is exactly

G=KX1,X2,X3 ∪ ⋃iKXi,Pi.G=K_{X_1,X_2,X_3}\ \cup\ \bigcup_i K_{X_i,P_i}.

If its edges are covered by four vertex subsets B1,…,B4B_1,\ldots,B_4, each of size at most t<τ(H)t<\tau(\mathcal H), choose an original edge avoiding each BiB_i. Together with the triple they form at most seven edges with no two-cover.

A small-union triple is sufficient

Let m=∣A1∪A2∪A3∣m=|A_1\cup A_2\cup A_3|. Assign each vertex to one set it misses, giving a proper three-coloring of GG. Split each color class into halves and assign the halves membership types

12∣34,13∣24,14∣2312\mid34,\qquad13\mid24,\qquad14\mid23

in four avoidance subsets. Types from different color classes intersect, so every candidate pair lies in one subset. Each subset has size at most ⌈m/2⌉+1\lceil m/2\rceil+1. Hence

τ(H)≤⌈m2⌉+1under P7.\tau(\mathcal H)\le\left\lceil\frac m2\right\rceil+1 \quad\text{under }P_7.

A good triple of union size (3/2+o(1))k(3/2+o(1))k would therefore prove the target bound. No theorem forcing such a triple was obtained.

Another explicit sufficient condition for four subsets of size tt is

xi≤t,s+∑imax⁡(0,k−t−s+2xi)≤t.x_i\le t, \qquad s+\sum_i\max(0,k-t-s+2x_i)\le t.

Take one subset containing all three core classes plus the overflow of each private class, and three subsets containing XiX_i plus the portion of PiP_i fitting alongside it. This works at t=3k/4t=3k/4 for symmetric triples xi=akx_i=ak with a≤1/4a\le1/4.

An actual obstruction to four static avoidance sets

If xi=akx_i=ak, ∣Pi∣=(1−2a)k|P_i|=(1-2a)k, and 1/4<a<1/21/4<a<1/2, four subsets of size 3k/43k/4 cannot cover all edges of GG.

A core point belonging to just one subset forces all its neighbors into that subset; its neighborhood has size kk. Thus every core point has at least two memberships, and every private point at least one. These use at least 6ak+3(1−2a)k=3k6ak+3(1-2a)k=3k memberships, exhausting all four capacities. Hence each core point has exactly two memberships and each private point exactly one. The two-element type families of the three core groups are cross-intersecting. Each has a common index, forced by its private class. Three such families on four indices either have a global common index or all lie in a triangle of three indices. In the first case one subset contains all core points, of size 3ak>3k/43ak>3k/4. In the second, only three subsets must accommodate all 3k3k memberships, exceeding their total capacity 9k/49k/4. Both are impossible. The elementary type classification is proved in static_avoidance_analysis.md.

For comparison, splitting each core class into portions of sizes (1+a)k/5(1+a)k/5 and (4a−1)k/5(4a-1)k/5 gives a four-subset construction of maximum size 3(1+a)k/5+O(1)3(1+a)k/5+O(1). A complementary-pair construction gives 3(1−a)k/2+O(1)3(1-a)k/2+O(1). Their minimum is at most 6k/7+O(1)6k/7+O(1) over the symmetric intermediate range. These are restricted triple calculations, not universal bounds on ff.

A mixed-integer search reported restricted optima 33/40,5/6,7/833/40,5/6,7/8 for core triples (3/8,3/8,3/8)(3/8,3/8,3/8), (1/4,3/8,3/8)(1/4,3/8,3/8), and (1/4,1/2,1/2)(1/4,1/2,1/2), with k=1k=1 as normalization. No exact lower-bound certificates were extracted; these reported optimality values are not used as proofs.

8. A restricted lower-construction class that can be excluded

A proved restricted theorem is recorded in two_profile_analysis.md:

Partition the ground set into two groups, and include every KK-set with either of two specified group-count profiles. If the resulting family has P7P_7, its transversal number is at most (3/4+o(1))K(3/4+o(1))K, uniformly over the parameters.

This does not treat three or more profiles or arbitrary families.

Normalize the group sizes to u,vu,v, the profiles to (a,1−a),(b,1−b)(a,1-a),(b,1-b), with a<ba<b, and set g=b−ag=b-a, n=u+vn=u+v. When both profiles have positive counts in both groups, the exact finite formula is

τ=min⁡{U−A+1, V−K+B+1, U+V−K−(B−A)+2}.\tau=\min\{U-A+1,\ V-K+B+1,\ U+V-K-(B-A)+2\}.

Thus a limiting ratio tt satisfies t≤min⁡(u−a,v−1+b,n−1−g)t\le\min(u-a,v-1+b,n-1-g). If A=0A=0, the first term must be omitted; if B=KB=K, omit the second. These endpoint corrections were essential. An earlier draft had them wrong and is explicitly superseded.

The proof uses the following concrete seven-row obstructions, with strict budget inequalities so that integer rounding is valid.

  1. Seven identical profiles are bad if a<4u/7a<4u/7 and 1−a<4v/71-a<4v/7, by the Fano spectra and incidence deletion.
  2. Three rows of profile aa on a Fano line and four of profile bb are bad if
1−2v/3<a<2u/3,7−4v<3a+4b<4u.1-2v/3<a<2u/3,\qquad 7-4v<3a+4b<4u.

The roles of a,ba,b can be interchanged. 3. Six rows of one profile and one of the other are bad if

(6/5)a+b<u,(6/5)(1−a)+(1−b)<v.(6/5)a+b<u,\qquad(6/5)(1-a)+(1-b)<v.

Use the singleton last row and the six five-subsets of the first six rows as spectra. 4. The pair-union-free spectra

123, 4, 1456, 2457, 3467, 567123,\ 4,\ 1456,\ 2457,\ 3467,\ 567

realize three rows of count xx and four of count yy using max⁡(x+y,2y−2x)\max(x+y,2y-2x) points. Give the three four-spectra weight z=min⁡(x,y/3)z=\min(x,y/3), and the other three weights x−z,y−3z,y−2zx-z,y-3z,y-2z. Thus a bad family exists when

2−v<a+b<u,2g<max⁡(u,v).2-v<a+b<u,\qquad 2g<\max(u,v).

Here is the main algebra in the interior case. If t>3/4t>3/4, normalized group sizes may be bounded by 7/47/4; otherwise an identical-profile Fano construction either exists or gives a transversal bound already at most 3K/4+O(1)3K/4+O(1). Avoiding the Fano tests then forces

a≤1−2v/3,u≤3b/2.a\le1-2v/3,\qquad u\le3b/2.

The sum a+ba+b must lie strictly between 2−v2-v and uu; otherwise the transversal bounds and these inequalities contradict t>3/4t>3/4. Test 4 consequently gives u,v≤2gu,v\le2g.

Put S1=(6/5)a+bS_1=(6/5)a+b, S2=a+(6/5)bS_2=a+(6/5)b. Neither lies in (11/5−v,u)(11/5-v,u). If both are below this interval, the inequalities give simultaneously b<9/14b<9/14 and b>7/10b>7/10. Both above is symmetric. If they straddle the interval, then n≤11/5+g/5n\le11/5+g/5 and n≤4gn\le4g, whereas n−g>7/4n-g>7/4. These force g<9/16g<9/16 and g>7/12g>7/12, a contradiction.

For the endpoint a=0a=0, an additional obstruction takes four low-profile edges with empty common second-group intersection and three high-profile edges with pairwise-disjoint second-group parts. Its inequalities are v>4/3v>4/3 and 1−b<v/31-b<v/3. Together with the six-plus-one test it excludes the endpoint case; the other endpoint is symmetric. Both endpoints give disjoint complete families and an even smaller upper coefficient.

Rounding is justified by using only strict limiting budget inequalities: floor the finitely many spectrum-class masses and repair each row with private singleton spectra, costing O(1)O(1) points. The full note uses non-strict inequalities when excluding these open obstruction regions, so boundary cases are not silently assumed to have slack.

One discarded numerical candidate illustrates why local checks matter: K=120K=120, group sizes 104,179104,179, and profiles (0,120),(70,50)(0,120),(70,50) have transversal number 93>9093>90. Nevertheless they fail P7P_7: choose four low edges with empty intersection in the second group and three high edges with disjoint 50-point second-group portions. Two first-group points miss the low edges; a mixed pair cannot hit all four low edges; two second-group points cannot hit the three disjoint high portions.

9. Parity/code amplification: explored but not established

The 1999 construction exploits a bounded incidence deficit. If seven kk-sets on n<2kn<2k points have no two-cover, every point has degree at most four, so the total deficit is

D=4n−7k.D=4n-7k.

At n=7k/4+1n=7k/4+1, this is only four. The source classifies the standard degree-four spectra into the Fano pattern and uses parity to contradict the possible exceptional vertices. That argument is specific to its small deficit; no general linear-slack stability theorem was established.

An attempted scalable replacement was to require edge indicator vectors to lie in a nonzero affine binary-code coset, with minimum coset weight dd linear in kk. In a Fano-like configuration, XORs of suitable triples of rows are supported on exceptional vertices, so a large coset distance could exclude such configurations. However, one must also prove that every sufficiently large residual vertex set contains an allowed weight-kk edge. That second requirement was never obtained with a favorable loss.

The rough random-code comparison was unfavorable: obtaining coset distance dd typically uses redundancy of order dlog⁡(n/d)d\log(n/d), while finding an allowed edge in every (k+s)(k+s)-set has only log⁡(k+ss)≈slog⁡(k/s)\log\binom{k+s}{s}\approx s\log(k/s) of combinatorial choice. This suggests deletion slack ss comparable to dd, not smaller than the available ground-set gain. These are exploratory entropy comparisons, not an impossibility theorem for codes or arbitrary constructions.

Imposing independent parity conditions on many small blocks has a direct problem: if every edge must meet each block, an entire smallest block is a global transversal. Ordinary clone blowups, the product operations in Section 6, and this blockwise parity idea therefore do not amplify the source's additive one into a positive asymptotic excess.

Other unproved ideas were a linear-size structural core for high-transversal PrP_r families, a continuous incidence-limit model, and a dichotomy separating dense extremizers from projective-type sublinear examples. The supplied critical-hypergraph bounds only give much larger cores; no appropriate stronger kernel theorem or discretization theorem was proved.

10. Precise remaining uncertainties

  1. There is no proof that arbitrary P7P_7 families have τ≤(3/4+o(1))k\tau\le(3/4+o(1))k, nor a construction proving an asymptotic excess.
  2. The small-union good-triple criterion is sufficient, but no theorem forces such a triple in a hypothetical counterexample. The static four-subset obstruction shows why an arbitrary good triple is not enough for that particular argument.
  3. The finite LP proves convergence for complete families only. No ratio-preserving amplification, subadditivity/superadditivity theorem, or general realization theorem transfers it to f(k,r)f(k,r).
  4. The two-profile result excludes only a narrow exchangeable construction class. Passing to two profiles from a larger profile family can lower its transversal number, so it is not a reduction of the general problem.
  5. The code route lacks both a sufficiently general Fano stability theorem and a simultaneous local-condition/global-covering construction with favorable quantitative parameters.

The finite parity improvement and all restricted obstructions in this record must not be presented as answers to the original two assertions.