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Problem 809

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Statement. Define the anti-Ramsey number χS(n,e,G)\chi_S(n,e,G) as the smallest rr such that there is a graph with nn vertices and ee edges with an rr-colouring of its edges in which every copy of GG has entirely distinct edge colours.

Is it true that, for all k≥3k\geq 3,

χS(n,⌊n2/4⌋+1,C2k+1)∼n2/8?\chi_S(n, \lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1,C_{2k+1})\sim n^2/8?

Formulation. The site's wording (page last edited 1 April 2026). χS(n,e,G)\chi_S(n,e,G) is the function of Burr, Erdős, Graham and Sós (1989), defined for graphs with exactly ee edges; Bucić, Chen and Ma write f(n,e,H)f(n,e,H) for the same minimum over graphs with at least ee edges, and the two agree, since deleting edges keeps every remaining copy of GG rainbow and adds no color (an observation made here; the 1989 paper calls χS\chi_S nondecreasing in ee on its p. 281). The edge count ⌊n2/4⌋+1\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1 is t2(n)+1t_2(n)+1, one more than the Turán number ex(n,K3)\mathrm{ex}(n,K_3), which equals ex(n,C2k+1)\mathrm{ex}(n,C_{2k+1}) for large nn; the 1989 paper writes the cycles as CkC_k with odd k≥7k\ge7 and the asymptotic as (1+o(1))(n2/8)(1+o(1))(n^2/8). The question quantifies over every k≥3k\ge3, so a proof for all k≥4k\ge4 leaves it open at k=3k=3, the cycle C7C_7; the cycles C3C_3 and C5C_5, where the function is constant and linear, are outside the question.

Status. Open on the site (last edited 1 April 2026), whose commentary credits Bucić, Chen and Ma [BCM26] with the affirmative answer for every k≥4k\ge4 and records nothing for k=3k=3. Their Theorem 1.2 (arXiv:2603.18952v1, 19 March 2026, a preprint) gives χS(n,e,C2k+1)=e/2+(n/2)e−n2/4+o(n2)\chi_S(n,e,C_{2k+1})=e/2+(n/2)\sqrt{e-n^2/4}+o(n^2) over the whole range ⌊n2/4⌋+1≤e≤(n2)\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1\le e\le\binom n2, and at e=⌊n2/4⌋+1e=\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1 this is n2/8+o(n2)n^2/8+o(n^2). The case k=3k=3 (C7C_7) is outside that theorem; for it the 1989 paper gives only the lower bound χS(n,⌊n2/4⌋+1,C7)≥cn2\chi_S(n,\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1,C_7)\ge cn^2 and the two-clique coloring that its authors say would make c=1/8c=1/8 best possible, and no refereed source found determines the C7C_7 constant; Shahab's preprint arXiv:2609.38286 (29 September 2026), unrefereed and not read here, states it (see "Outside claims and priority"). The frontmatter standing is derived from the claim pages: two accepted full claims, each a Lean proof of the full statement for every k≥3k\ge3 that this corpus built and audited, settle the problem on formalized evidence. Asad Shahab's claim, filed on the site first (the site's proof claim 358, before the project's 367, both on 27 September 2026), is a seven-cycle proof with a Lean development for every k≥3k\ge3, built here at its pinned commit and audited clause by clause against the Statement (see the Formalization paragraph) (claim page). The project's claim L17, a kernel-checked Lean proof of the full statement for every k≥3k\ge3 whose statement the project's fidelity review and grade of 2026-10-02 audited (see the Formalization paragraph), is the other (claim page); its tier-2 standing is the project's own verification, not community acceptance. No outside review of either proof is known. Bucić, Chen and Ma's theorem is an accepted partial claim covering k≥4k\ge4 on formalized evidence, the k≥4k\ge4 branches of both developments (the site's commentary credits the theorem, but on a problem the site labels OPEN that credit is not acceptance) (claim page).

Source. erdosproblems.com/809, accessed 2026-09-18: the problem page (OPEN, marked by the site as not resolvable by a finite computation; last edited 1 April 2026; source keys [BEGS89, p. 270] and [Er91, p. 398]; commentary citing [BCM26]), its one-comment discussion thread (20 March 2026) and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #809, https://www.erdosproblems.com/809, accessed 2026-09-18.

References.

  • [BCM26] Bucić, M., Chen, K. and Ma, J., On a maximal anti-Ramsey conjecture of Burr, Erdős, Graham, and Sós. arXiv:2603.18952v1 (19 March 2026), 12 pages; a preprint (the site's reference text prints "conjeture"). Conjecture 1.1, Theorem 1.2 and display (1), p. 2. Library home: bucic_2026_maximal_anti_ramsey_conjecture_burr_erdos.
  • [BEGS89] Burr, S. A., Erdős, P., Graham, R. L. and Sós, V. T., Maximal antiramsey graphs and the strong chromatic number. J. Graph Theory 13 (1989), no. 3, 263--282, doi:10.1002/jgt.3190130302. Theorem 4.1, p. 268; Theorem 5.1, p. 269; the question, p. 270. Library home: burr_1989_maximal_anti_ramsey_graphs_strong_chromatic.
  • [Er91] Erdős, P., Problems and results in combinatorial analysis and combinatorial number theory. Graph theory, combinatorics, and applications, Vol. 1 (Kalamazoo, MI, 1988) (1991), 397--406 (as the site's reference text prints it); the site cites p. 398, and [BCM26] cites the paper as its [8] for the conjecture. Not held: past the Rényi archive's 1989 cutoff, no attempt made.
  • [ErSi] Erdős, P. and Simonovits, M., "to appear": the 1989 paper's reference [8] for the exact value ⌊n/2⌋+3\lfloor n/2\rfloor+3 at C5C_5. Not identified and not held.

Formalization. Two Lean developments, both built and audited here, prove the full statement (below). No catalog formalization is recorded: no file ErdosProblems/809.lean existed in formal-conjectures on 2026-09-18 (directory listing); the site's page shows "Formalised statement? No", and the community database (teorth/erdosproblems, on 2026-09-18) recorded the problem open, not formalized, with no formal proof (record last updated 31 August 2025).

Two Lean developments prove the full statement for every k≥3k\ge3, and this corpus built and audited both. Asad Shahab's, posted with the site's proof claim 358, the first filed (27 September 2026), proves it as Erdos809.erdos_809 in the repository Asad-Shahab/erdos-809-lean, which this corpus built at its pinned commit, the head of 27 September 2026, on 2026-10-08 (Lean v4.28.0, Mathlib v4.28.0; exit 0, no errors); the theorem's axioms are exactly propext, Classical.choice and Quot.sound, and its proof applies Erdos809.erdos_809_C7 for k=3k=3 and, for k≥4k\ge4, Erdos809.erdos_809_long_odd_cycles, the development's formalization of Bucić, Chen and Ma's argument. A clause-by-clause audit found its statement equivalent to the Statement above, to L17's and to the erdos_809 of formal-conjectures pull request 6634, whose statement file names as its formal proof the pinned commit's parent, which has the same Lean sources; each difference is an exact equivalence (at least rather than exactly ⌊n2/4⌋+1\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1 edges, as the Formulation observes; colors counted as the image of the coloring; an explicit ε\varepsilon–NN band on the attained minimum). The repository has no comparator challenge file, so no fingerprint comparison was made. The claim page Shahab 2026 records the checks.

This repository also answers the question in the affirmative for every k≥3k\ge3, in the development posted with the site's proof claim 367, filed after Shahab's: the project's claim L17, whose Lean surface states the full k≥3k\ge3 question in the catalog's exact-edge form, is proved at tier 2 under the second-cycle statement-fidelity review and distinct grade of 2026-10-02, with no condition. The k≥4k\ge4 cases are the theorem of Bucić, Chen and Ma, formalized natively in Erdos.Library.Problem809.BucicChenMa; the k=3k=3 case, the seven-cycle, is the project's own argument; a research guide covers the proof and its two formal branches. The independent whole-statement fidelity review of 2026-10-02 (verdict refutation-failed) and its distinct grade (report pass, independence pass, each disclosed exposure ruled immaterial, the tier asserted in the grade) are filed under the claim's verification records; the grade cites the non-author clean gate of 2026-09-29 over the whole lean/ tree as it stood on the default branch that day (7,501 jobs built; AUDIT PASS over 42,230 constants in 2,977 modules, 7 claims, 0 compiler axioms; exit 0), whose receipt the claim card names by path, and no first-parent change under lean/ has followed; the proof is kernel-only, on propext, Classical.choice and Quot.sound. The tier-2 warrant covers the whole statement of L17. It asserts nothing about χS\chi_S at any fixed nn, a rate of convergence, C3C_3 or C5C_5, novelty or community acceptance; neither the fidelity review nor its grade read the Bucić–Chen–Ma paper, and the k≥4k\ge4 branch is a closed native proof whose truth does not rest on that attribution.

Outside claims and priority. As of 2026-10-05 the site labels the problem OPEN (last edited 1 April 2026), credits Bucić, Chen and Ma for k≥4k\ge4 only, and its proof-claims tab lists two full proof claims, each a proof of the C7C_7 case with a Lean development for every k≥3k\ge3, both dated 27 September 2026. Asad Shahab's, the site's proof claim 358, was filed first; its Lean development (Asad-Shahab/erdos-809-lean) states Erdos809.erdos_809 for all k≥3k\ge3, and this corpus built it at its pinned commit and audited its statement (see the Formalization paragraph). Shahab's preprint arXiv:2609.38286v1 (29 September 2026, "The Burr-Erdős-Graham-Sós conjecture for the seven-cycle") proves f(n,⌊n2/4⌋+1,C7)=(1/8+o(1))n2f(n,\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1,C_7)=(1/8+o(1))n^2, and a formal-conjectures pull request (6634, opened on 27 September 2026; open and unmerged) carries a statement file that marks the problem research solved and names that development as its formal proof. This project's, the site's proof claim 367, filed later the same day under the name Plasma AI, is the L17 development, registered on the Palomar registry on 30 September 2026 as PALOMAR-2026-09-30-000004 (plasma-ai/erdos-809, theorem Erdos809.main_result, trust level high, automated review outcome neutral). Shahab's claim is independent of L17 and earlier the same day, so wherever this page or the research folder calls the seven-cycle argument the project's own, that is authorship and not priority: an independent proof of the C7C_7 case was posted first. Neither claim has comments, neither is refereed, and the site's label on that date is OPEN; none of this changes the standing of L17, whose tier rests on the filed records above and not on priority or community acceptance. This corpus has not read Shahab's preprint, so that claim's acceptance rests on the Lean alone. The two postings have their claim pages, Shahab 2026 and the project's development, both accepted on formalized evidence.

Current assessment

The question (site formulation, last edited 1 April 2026). The statement above; OPEN; source keys [BEGS89, p. 270], [Er91, p. 398]. The commentary attributes the problem to Burr, Erdős, Graham and Sós, who proved the lower bound χS(n,⌊n2/4⌋+1,C2k+1)≫kn2\chi_S(n,\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1,C_{2k+1})\gg_kn^2, records that Bucić, Chen and Ma solved the question in the affirmative for all k≥4k\ge4, and contrasts the two shorter odd cycles, where the function behaves quite differently: χS(n,⌊n2/4⌋+1,C3)=3\chi_S(n,\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1,C_3)=3 is easy, and for C5C_5 the value is ⌊n/2⌋+3\lfloor n/2\rfloor+3 for all large nn, a result of Erdős and Simonovits that the commentary cites as reported in [BEGS89]; it points to Problem 810. The thread has one comment (20 March 2026) pointing to [BCM26] for k≥4k\ge4, after which the site was updated; the proof-claim tab was empty on 2026-09-18, and on 2026-10-05 it listed two proof claims dated 27 September 2026 (see "Outside claims and priority"). The community database record says open.

Origin ([BEGS89]). The paper defines χS(n,e,L)\chi_S(n,e,L) on p. 264 as the least rr for which some graph with nn vertices and ee edges has an rr-coloring of its edges with every copy of LL totally multicolored. Theorem 5.1 (p. 269): for odd k≥7k\ge7, large nn and e>t2(n)e>t_2(n), χS(n,e,Ck)≥cn2\chi_S(n,e,C_k)\ge cn^2, where t2(n)=⌊n2/4⌋t_2(n)=\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor; this is the site's ≫kn2\gg_kn^2. The problem is the unnumbered passage after its proof (p. 270; conjecture_p270): "Is it true that we can take c=1/8c=1/8 in Theorem 5.1? If so, this would be best possible. If [sic] may in fact be true that for all odd k≥7k\ge7, if e=t2(n)+1e=t_2(n)+1, then χS(n,e,Ck)=(1+o(1))(n2/8)\chi_S(n,e,C_k)=(1+o(1))(n^2/8)" ("If may" is printed for "It may"). For C5C_5, Theorem 4.1 (p. 268) proves only c1n≤χS(n,t2(n)+1,C5)≤⌊n/2⌋+3c_1n\le\chi_S(n,t_2(n)+1,C_5)\le\lfloor n/2\rfloor+3 and attributes the sharpness of the upper bound to "a more careful analysis ... (see [8])", [8] being Erdős and Simonovits, "to appear"; so the site's attribution of the exact C5C_5 value to Erdős and Simonovits, which it reports from [BEGS89], is the paper's own attribution, and the exact C5C_5 value rests on a paper not identified here. The value 33 for C3C_3 is "easy to see" ([BCM26], p. 2).

Status-defining result for k≥4k\ge4. [BCM26], arXiv v1. Conjecture 1.1 (p. 2) states the problem in the paper's words for k≥3k\ge3, attributed to [BEGS89] and [Er91] with a pointer to this catalog entry. Theorem 1.2 (p. 2): for k≥4k\ge4 and ⌊n2/4⌋+1≤e≤(n2)\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1\le e\le\binom n2,

f(n,e,C2k+1)=e2+n2e−n24+o(n2),f(n,e,C_{2k+1})=\frac e2+\frac n2\sqrt{e-\frac{n^2}4}+o(n^2),

with the lower bound (1) as the new content and the upper bound from two vertex-disjoint cliques with reused colors, an example the paper credits to [BEGS89]. Two lines made here and named as such: at e=⌊n2/4⌋+1e=\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1 one has 0<e−n2/4≤10<e-n^2/4\le1, so the square-root term is at most n/2n/2 and the theorem reads n2/8+o(n2)n^2/8+o(n^2), the site's ∼n2/8\sim n^2/8; and the paper's ff (at least ee edges) equals the site's χS\chi_S (exactly ee edges) by edge deletion, as the Formulation says. Acceptance evidence: the k≥4k\ge4 branches of L17 and of Shahab's development formalize these instances (see the Formalization paragraph). The site's commentary, updated after the thread comment of 20 March 2026, credits the paper with the affirmative answer for every k≥4k\ge4, but on a problem the site labels OPEN that credit is not acceptance. The paper is an arXiv preprint with one version, no journal reference on its listing and no Crossref record (2026-09-18), and no independent review of its proof was found, so the k≥4k\ge4 half rests on an unrefereed preprint whose k≥4k\ge4 instances both developments formalize. Read depth: Conjecture 1.1, Theorem 1.2 and display (1) (p. 2) and the proof sketch of Section 2 were checked clause by clause; the proof (Section 4) was not read.

The case C7C_7. Theorem 1.2 requires k≥4k\ge4; the paper proves the conjecture "for all k≥4k\ge4" and proves nothing for C7C_7; its closing remark (p. 11) says the proof uses k≥4k\ge4 crucially, to keep the total length of the two short paths joining a pair of edges at most 2k−12k-1, and that for k=3k=3 the authors have a more involved "stability" argument, not given in the paper, that bypasses this "in the second case", leaving "the first case as the main bottleneck". In [BEGS89] the case k=7k=7 of Theorem 5.1 already needs its own argument (p. 270). What is known here for C7C_7 at e=⌊n2/4⌋+1e=\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1: the lower bound cn2cn^2 of Theorem 5.1, and the two-clique coloring, which the 1989 authors say would make c=1/8c=1/8 best possible and which [BCM26] describes as the upper-bound example; no refereed source found states the asymptotic constant. Shahab's preprint arXiv:2609.38286 (29 September 2026), unrefereed and not read here, states it, and the two Lean developments behind the accepted claims prove it (see "Outside claims and priority"). The three papers citing [BCM26] in the citation index on 2026-09-18 are 2026 preprints on the P4P_4 version of the problem (two) and on posets (one); by their titles, none concerns C7C_7.

Search scope. None of the routes below found a determination of χS(n,⌊n2/4⌋+1,C7)\chi_S(n,\lfloor n^2/4\rfloor+1,C_7), a refereed version of [BCM26], or a dispute.

  • The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; formal-conjectures (no file 809); the community database.
  • arXiv: the API record of 2603.18952 (one version, 19 March 2026; no journal reference). The API's keyword searches ("maximal anti-Ramsey"; "anti-Ramsey" with "odd cycle"; "totally multicolored" or "strong chromatic number" with Ramsey) answered HTTP 429 on two paced attempts and were not repeated, so abstract-level searching of arXiv is not covered.
  • Crossref: a bibliographic query for [BCM26]'s title (no journal record); the DOI record of [BEGS89] (J. Graph Theory 13 (1989), no. 3, 263--282, July 1989).
  • Semantic Scholar: the citation list of [BCM26] (three records, all 2026 arXiv preprints, scanned by title) and of Sárközy and Selkow's 2006 paper (ten records, none on odd cycles).
  • Primary sources consulted: [BEGS89] printed pp. 263--264, 268--273, 281--282; [BCM26] pp. 1--3.

Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Not held: [Er91], the Erdős--Simonovits paper "to appear".

Remaining gaps. (1) The k≥4k\ge4 half rests on an unrefereed preprint with no independent review, whose k≥4k\ge4 instances L17 and Shahab's development both formalize; this corpus has not read its proof. (2) C7C_7 is settled in no refereed source found, and the search did not cover arXiv abstracts; Shahab's preprint arXiv:2609.38286 states the constant but is unrefereed and not read here, and the case's proofs are Shahab's independent claim, filed first (item 7), and this repository's claim L17 (item 6). A refereed version of that preprint or of [BCM26] would change the literature account above. (3) [Er91], the site's second source, is not held; its p. 398 passage is second-hand. (4) The exact C5C_5 value is attributed by the 1989 paper to a paper "to appear" that is not identified here. (5) Proof coverage is statements only: claims checked for Theorems 4.1, 5.1 and 1.2 and the two conjecture statements; nothing is independently reviewed. (6) This repository holds a proof of the C7C_7 case and a Lean development for all k≥3k\ge3, recorded as native claim L17 with a research guide; the corpus build and axiom audit pass, and the independent whole-statement fidelity audit, its distinct grade and the non-author clean gate the verification contract requires are filed (see the Formalization paragraph), so the claim stands at tier 2 under the fidelity review and grade of 2026-10-02 named there, and the frontmatter standing derives through its claim page and Shahab's (item 7), each accepted on a formalized proof; the literature qualifications in items (1) to (5) are unchanged. (7) Priority: Shahab's independent claim, a C7C_7 proof with a Lean development for every k≥3k\ge3, was filed on the site first, as proof claim 358 before the project's 367, both on 27 September 2026 (the outside-claims paragraph above); this corpus built that development at its pinned commit and audited its statement on 2026-10-08, and the claim is accepted on that formalized proof. L17's standing does not rest on priority.

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