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Problem 609
claims/: The 4 claim pages of Problem 609, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. Let be the minimal such that if the edges of are coloured with colours then there must be a monochromatic odd cycle of length at most . Estimate .
Status. Open (the site's label, which adds that the problem cannot be resolved by a finite computation). The sources below give separated lower and upper bounds at the exact host threshold , but they do not determine the growth order; the search recorded under Current assessment found nothing further, and that negative result is not proof of openness. Two refereed bounds are accepted partial claims: Day and Johnson's lower bound, which answers Chung's question whether , and Janzer and Yip's upper bound. Two partial claims are pending: Girão and Hunter's earlier upper bound, a preprint, and the value , recorded on its claim page.
Source. erdosproblems.com/609, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #609, https://www.erdosproblems.com/609.
References.
- [Ch97] Chung, F. R. K., Open problems of Paul Erdős in graph theory. J. Graph Theory (1997), 3-36. 1997 preprint.
- [DaJo17] Day, A. Nicholas and Johnson, J. Robert, Multicolour Ramsey numbers of odd cycles. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B (2017), 56-63.
- [GiHu24] A. Girão and Z. Hunter, Monochromatic odd cycles in edge-coloured complete graphs. arXiv:2412.07708 (2024).
- [JaYi25] O. Janzer and F. Yip, Short monochromatic odd cycles. Math. Proc. Cambridge Philos. Soc. 181 (2026), no. 1, 781--788, doi:10.1017/S0305004125101801; arXiv:2506.14910 (2025).
Formalization. A statement only. The file
ErdosProblems/609.lean
of formal-conjectures, linked at the main commit of 18 September 2026, defines
as the least such that every -coloring of the edges of
has a monochromatic odd cycle of length at most , and declares erdos_609,
the assertion that has the growth order of an unspecified function
(answer(sorry)), under category research open with proof sorry. It carries
no formal_proof attribute, so it records no formal proof. The file was added
on 9 September 2026; the site's indicator reads "Formalised statement? Yes", and
the community database lists the statement as formalized since 9 September 2026
with formal status unformalized.
Current assessment
The best compiled exact-threshold bounds are
from Day--Johnson and
from Janzer--Yip. Both concern colors on exactly . Their orders remain far apart, so neither the upper-bound breakthrough nor the unbounded lower bound estimates to a determined asymptotic order.
Girão--Hunter's earlier exact-threshold upper bound
holds for every fixed and all sufficiently large . It is historically important but is weaker than the later Janzer--Yip bound.
The bounded status search checked the current arXiv version records for Day--Johnson, Girão--Hunter, Janzer--Yip, Axenovich et al., Huang--Yang--Chen, and Miyazaki et al.; the Cambridge published record and repository entry for Janzer--Yip; an author publication page; exact-title and exact-parameter web/arXiv queries; and public X/web announcement queries. The Erdős Problems site's search listing classified the question as open. No additional result resolving the problem, closing the Day/Girão/Janzer gap, or matching the opposite bound's order was located in this bounded search. That absence does not certify openness or an exhaustive priority claim.
Proof claims on the site. The site's proof-claim tab carries one partial claim, submitted 25 September 2026: that , by the classical for the lower bound and a structural argument with a finite enumeration and a SAT check for the upper bound. It concerns the case only and leaves the asymptotic question untouched. It is recorded, with its provenance, on its claim page; the site's label is OPEN, and the claim is not accepted.
Progress
Day--Johnson construct -colorings of whose monochromatic odd girth is at least . Their Corollary 6 is on pp. 5--6 of arXiv:1602.07607v2. This proves in particular that .
Girão--Hunter Theorem 1.2 (arXiv:2412.07708v1, p. 1) gives the first upper bound at the exact host. Its numerator is exactly .
Janzer--Yip Theorem 1.4 improves this exponentially to . The same statement is Theorem 1.4, p. 2, of both arXiv:2506.14910v1 and the published 2026 Cambridge edition.
Their Theorem 1.5 is the separately quantified near-threshold result for . Specializing recovers Theorem 1.4 at ; it is not an additional sharper exact-threshold estimate.
Known Results
| Result | Statement relevant to E609 | Interface and scope |
|---|---|---|
| Day--Johnson, Corollary 6 | arXiv v2 source, exact host | |
| Girão--Hunter, Theorem 1.2 | for fixed and large | Exact result page, exact host |
| Janzer--Yip, Theorem 1.4 | Exact result page, exact host |
Several nearby results do not improve these exact-threshold bounds. Axenovich et al. Theorem 1.2 requires a host of order greater than for and explicitly gives no nontrivial conclusion at . Huang--Yang--Chen Theorem 5 fixes the target cycle length before the number of colors grows. In contrast, Miyazaki--Mulrenin--Pohoata--Zheng Remark 2.2 gives the uniform bound
This upper bound exceeds for every positive pair other than : at it is , which is larger for ; at it is at least . It therefore supplies no guaranteed cycle length at the exact host apart from the elementary one-color triangle case. Miyazaki et al.'s Theorem 1.3 has an exact threshold for an additive-coloring statement. Its conclusion concerns colorings of integers, not arbitrary edge-colorings, and does not itself supply the required cycle-length bound. This is the application boundary here; the paper's p. 3 comparison instead explains why the additive theorem is not a direct consequence of the graph-theoretic odd-cycle existence fact.
Linked library material
These entries are derived from explicit links on library pages. They are navigation only and do not by themselves record mathematical progress.
- miyazaki_2026_improved_ramsey_bounds_generalized_schur_equations
- miyazaki_2026_improved_ramsey_bounds_generalized_schur_equations / remark_2_2
- miyazaki_2026_improved_ramsey_bounds_generalized_schur_equations / theorem_1_1
- miyazaki_2026_improved_ramsey_bounds_generalized_schur_equations / theorem_1_3
- chung_1997_open_problems_paul_erdos_graph_theory
- axenovich_2025_improved_upper_bound_multicolour_ramsey_number
- axenovich_2025_improved_upper_bound_multicolour_ramsey_number / theorem_1_1
- axenovich_2025_improved_upper_bound_multicolour_ramsey_number / theorem_1_2
- day_2017_multicolour_ramsey_numbers_odd_cycles
- girao_2024_monochromatic_odd_cycles_edge_coloured_complete
- girao_2024_monochromatic_odd_cycles_edge_coloured_complete / lemma_2_1
- girao_2024_monochromatic_odd_cycles_edge_coloured_complete / lemma_2_2
- girao_2024_monochromatic_odd_cycles_edge_coloured_complete / lemma_2_3
- girao_2024_monochromatic_odd_cycles_edge_coloured_complete / proposition_4_1
- girao_2024_monochromatic_odd_cycles_edge_coloured_complete / theorem_1_2
- huang_2026_new_upper_bound_ramsey_number_odd_cycles
- huang_2026_new_upper_bound_ramsey_number_odd_cycles / theorem_5
- janzer_2025_short_monochromatic_odd_cycles
- janzer_2025_short_monochromatic_odd_cycles / lemma_2_8
- janzer_2025_short_monochromatic_odd_cycles / theorem_1_4
- janzer_2025_short_monochromatic_odd_cycles / theorem_1_5
- janzer_2025_short_monochromatic_odd_cycles / theorem_2_9