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Problem 161
claims/: The 1 claim page of Problem 161, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. Let and . Let be the smallest such that we can -colour the edges of the complete -uniform hypergraph on vertices such that if with then there are at least $\alpha \binom{\lvert X\rvert}{t}$ many -subsets of of each colour.
For fixed as we change from to does increase continuously or are there jumps? Only one jump?
Formulation. The site's wording as accessed on 2026-09-04, which the site corrected on 16 January 2026 from "largest " to "smallest " after a thread comment, is read as Erdős's source reads it (1990, printed pp. 21--22), because two of its phrases conflict with the site's own commentary. Its "at least " makes the case vacuous, while the commentary calls that case the usual Ramsey function; Erdős requires more than that many -subsets of each color, so is the least for which some coloring has no monochromatic set of vertices, the inverse of the two-color -uniform Ramsey function. The question whether increases continuously or jumps asks, for fixed , how the order of growth of as changes as runs through ; for a single the function is integer-valued and nondecreasing in , so it cannot change continuously, and the fixed- reading is degenerate.
Status. Open, the site's label (page last edited 16 January 2026). The one claim is Conlon, Fox and Sudakov's accepted partial claim [CFS11] ([[problems/discrepancy/E0161/claims/2009_01_25_conlon_fox_sudakov|claim page]]): for the order of growth of is for every fixed , so no jump occurs inside . Whether a jump occurs at for , and the whole question for , are open, so the problem stays open.
Source. erdosproblems.com/161, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #161, https://www.erdosproblems.com/161.
References.
- [CFS10] Conlon, D., Fox, J. and Sudakov, B., Hypergraph Ramsey numbers. J. Amer. Math. Soc. 23 (2010), no. 1, 247--266, DOI 10.1090/S0894-0347-09-00645-6; arXiv:0808.3760v1 (27 August 2008). Section 6.2, pp. 16--17 of the preprint. Library home: conlon_2008_hypergraph_ramsey_numbers.
- [CFS11] Conlon, David and Fox, Jacob and Sudakov, Benny, Large almost monochromatic subsets in hypergraphs. Israel J. Math. 181 (2011), no. 1, 423--432, DOI 10.1007/s11856-011-0016-6; arXiv:0901.3912 (25 January 2009). Library home: conlon_2011_large_almost_monochromatic_subsets_hypergraphs.
- [Er90b] Erdős, Paul, Problems and results on graphs and hypergraphs: similarities and differences. Mathematics of Ramsey theory (1990), 12-28; pp. 21--22, displays (31)--(32) and the jump question. Library home: erdos_1990_problems_results_graphs_hypergraphs_similarities_differences.
Formalization. Statement only. The formal-conjectures file
ErdosProblems/161.lean,
added on 2026-10-07, states the question in two parts under category research open, both with proof sorry: for fixed , which densities
give threshold functions of the same order of growth as
, and, for fixed , whether every gives
the same order. It compares growth up to constant factors and requires each
color to occur at , the reading the Formulation records. No formal
proof exists.
Current assessment
The question (site formulation of 2026-09-04). The statement above, read as the Formulation says; OPEN, with a prize; page last edited 16 January 2026. The site's commentary says that gives the usual Ramsey function, that the Erdős--Hajnal--Rado conjecture would give , credits Erdős and Spencer with a bound of order for , and credits [CFS11] with the case , where it says there is only one jump, at . The commentary prints the two inequalities reversed, for [CFS11] and for Erdős and Spencer: the paper's theorem is a lower bound and the random coloring is the upper bound, as Erdős's display (31) also has it. The site's thread holds three comments: the correction of 16 January 2026 recorded under Formulation, acknowledged by the curator the same day, and a comment of 18 October 2025 relating the problem to a hypergraph form of the Nikiforov conjecture. The proof-claim tab is empty.
What is known. Erdős's display (31) [Er90b, p. 21] gives, for close to , , the upper bound credited to Erdős and Spencer, and display (32) records the bounds of order at that the Erdős--Hajnal--Rado conjecture would give; his guess is that the jump occurs all in one step at . For , Theorem 1 of [CFS11] gives for every fixed , and the random coloring gives the matching , so the order of growth is the same on all of and no jump occurs inside ; that is the accepted partial claim on [[problems/discrepancy/E0161/claims/2009_01_25_conlon_fox_sudakov|the Conlon--Fox--Sudakov page]]. Whether is of smaller order is open: it inverts the two-color -uniform Ramsey function, known only between and (display (15) of [Er90b]), so it lies between order and order , and the site's "only one jump" for claims more than the sources prove. For general , Theorem 6.2 of [CFS10] gives for every fixed , with (p. 17 of the preprint; the site's unkeyed remark). That paper states the bound, not the jump, so it has no claim page. An observation made here: the stepping-up lower bound (display (16) of [Er90b]) gives , which for every is of smaller order than , so for the order of growth jumps between and every ; neither source draws this consequence, and it is not recorded as a claim. Whether further jumps occur inside for is open: there the order is known only between and, for near , .
Scope. The search of 2026-10-07 covered the site's page and thread, Erdős's chapter [Er90b] and the two Conlon--Fox--Sudakov papers; a later result on the jump at for or on the range for may exist unrecorded.
Linked library material
These entries are derived from explicit links on library pages. They are navigation only and do not by themselves record mathematical progress.
- conlon_2011_large_almost_monochromatic_subsets_hypergraphs
- conlon_2011_large_almost_monochromatic_subsets_hypergraphs / theorem_1
- conlon_2011_large_almost_monochromatic_subsets_hypergraphs / theorem_2
- conlon_2008_hypergraph_ramsey_numbers
- conlon_2008_hypergraph_ramsey_numbers / theorem_6_2
- erdos_1990_problems_results_graphs_hypergraphs_similarities_differences