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Problem 806
claims/: The 1 claim page of Problem 806, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. Let with $\lvert A\rvert \leq n^{1/2}$. Must there exist some with $\lvert B\rvert=o(n^{1/2})$ such that ?
Formulation. The site's wording as of 2026-09-18 (the page shows no last-edited date). is a basis for when every is with ; Erdős and Newman write for the least size of a basis and call of type when it has elements with largest element ([ErNe77], pp. 420--421). Their closing question (p. 425) is "whether any set of type needs elements in its basis. In short let , taken over all of type , is ?" With this is the site's question for sets of exactly elements in ; the site allows , which the resolving theorem covers directly. The question asks about a single for all , that is about , as the origin makes explicit.
Status. Proved; the site labels the problem PROVED. Theorem 1.4 of Alon, Bukh and Sudakov [ABS09] (Israel J. Math. 174 (2009) 285--301, refereed; result page) shows that a group of order containing a non-doubling set of size between and satisfies the "EN-condition": every with has a basis with . Cyclic groups qualify (Corollary 1.5(a), solvable groups; or since an interval is non-doubling), and the paper's reduction (p. 3) lifts a basis to at the cost of a factor , so every with lies in for some with , for all sufficiently large . The order is sharp up to constants: Erdős and Newman [ErNe77] (J. Number Theory 9 (1977), refereed) state on p. 423 that most sets of type have , the site's lower bound, a remark they assert without proof and which [ABS09] (pp. 2--3) restates and carries to every finite group. The claim page is Alon, Bukh and Sudakov (accepted on the refereed publication and the site's credit).
Source. erdosproblems.com/806, accessed 2026-09-18: the problem page (labeled PROVED, with the site's banner for an affirmative resolution; no last-edited date; source key [ErNe77]; commentary citing [ABS09] and cross-referencing Problem 333; OEIS indicator set to possible), its empty discussion thread and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #806, https://www.erdosproblems.com/806, accessed 2026-09-18.
References.
- [ABS09] Alon, N., Bukh, B. and Sudakov, B., Discrete Kakeya-type problems and small bases. Israel J. Math. 174 (2009), no. 1, 285--301, DOI 10.1007/s11856-009-0115-9 (November 2009, as its Crossref record gives it); the edition read is the authors' version from Alon's publication list, https://web.math.princeton.edu/~nalon/PDFS/publications.html (12 pp., its own pagination; the journal text not compared; arXiv:0711.1604 is the preprint). The EN-condition, Theorem 1.4, Corollary 1.5 and the reduction to , p. 3; Lemma 3.1 and the proof of Theorem 1.4, pp. 8--9. Library home: alon_2009_discrete_kakeya_type_problems_small_bases.
- [ErNe77] Erdős, P. and Newman, D. J., Bases for sets of integers. J. Number Theory 9 (1977), no. 4, 420--425, DOI 10.1016/0022-314x(77)90003-8 (received 13 October 1976, as its Crossref record gives it); the edition read is the Rényi archive copy, https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/1977-05.pdf, by printed page: Theorem 1, p. 420; Theorem 2, p. 422; the remark, p. 423; the question, p. 425. Library home: erdos_1977_bases_sets_integers and its question_p425 page.
- [KoLe92] Kozma, G. and Lev, A., Bases and decomposition numbers of finite groups. Arch. Math. (Basel) 58 (1992), 417--424 ([ABS09]'s [11]; the -universal sets of Theorem 1.1). Not held; it is cited only as a source of the -universal sets, the case that [ABS09]'s Theorem 1.2 generalizes.
Formalization. A statement file,
ErdosProblems/806.lean,
was added to google-deepmind/formal-conjectures on 2026-09-20; none existed on
2026-09-18, when the problem page's indicator recorded no formalized statement
and the community database listed the problem proved as of its entry's last
update of 31 August 2025, which does not date any change of state, unformalized,
OEIS "possible", with no formal proof. At the commit linked above, its theorem
erdos_806 states the site's question with the answer yes: for every
and all large , every with
lies in for some finite with
. It is marked research solved, its own proof is
sorry, and its formal_proof attribute points to the file Erdos806.lean in
Boris Alexeev's lean-proofs repository, whose header names Alon, Bukh and
Sudakov as informal authors and Codex and GPT-5.6 Sol as formal authors and
which contains no sorry; it is a formalization link on the claim page, pinned
there. Two variants are left as sorry: alon_bukh_sudakov, the bound
, and erdos_newman, the lower bound
for some , whose docstring says that Erdős and
Newman proved it, although the paper only asserts it (p. 423, below). The
community database records the problem formalized since 2026-09-20. This corpus
has not built or audited the proof, so it gives no formalized evidence; the
standing rests on the refereed paper.
Current assessment
The question (site formulation as of 2026-09-18). The statement above; labeled PROVED; no last-edited date. The commentary attributes the problem to Erdős and Newman [ErNe77], credits them with sets of size about every basis of which has elements, credits the resolution to Alon, Bukh and Sudakov [ABS09], whose theorem gives every with a basis of elements, and cross-references Problem 333. The thread and the proof-claim tab are empty. The community database lists the problem proved as of its entry's last update of 31 August 2025, which does not date any change of state, and formalized since 2026-09-20.
The origin. [ErNe77] studies for finite sets of non-negative integers. Theorem 1 (p. 420): , the lower bound by counting pairs and the upper by the basis of the whole interval. Theorem 2 (p. 422): most sets of type have , by comparing the number of sets of type with the number of sets of a given size; "Only sets with growth like the squares seem to present any real difficulty!" (p. 422). For the squares they prove (p. 423), and in introducing this they write (p. 423): "for most sets of type satisfy , by Theorem 2 (and in fact this can be improved to while (for example)"; the improvement is not proved in the paper. The closing question (p. 425) is quoted under Formulation (result page). The site's lower bound is this p. 423 remark; [ABS09] (p. 2) describes it as what "the counting argument only yielded" in the borderline case and (p. 3) notes that "The lower bound of Erdős and Newman immediately carries over to any finite group : there is always a set with at most elements for which every basis is of size at least [sic] ."
The resolution. Theorem 1.4 of [ABS09] (p. 3, claims checked): "If and contains a non-doubling set satisfying , then satisfies the EN-condition", where a set is non-doubling if and the EN-condition means that every of size at most has a basis of size at most ; the paper assumes throughout that its groups are sufficiently large (p. 2). Corollary 1.5 (p. 3): every solvable group satisfies the condition, so in particular every cyclic group; directly, an interval of the required length in is non-doubling (this page's observation, not the paper's). The reduction (p. 3): a basis of in gives the basis of in , "So, up to a multiplicative constant of 2 the Erdős-Newman problem is a problem about bases for subsets of ." Hence for large every with has with and , the affirmative answer with the site's quantitative form. The proof (pp. 8--9, structure only, unverified): a set of at most elements with , which a random choice gives with positive probability (Lemma 3.1); is split along the shifts into blocks of elements; a -universal set for of size below (Theorem 1.2, a random construction for non-doubling sets) contains a translate of every block; is together with the at most translating elements. Acceptance evidence: the Israel Journal of Mathematics is refereed; the site's commentary; the paper's remark (p. 10) that it "seems plausible that in fact every finite group satisfies the EN-condition". Read depth: claims checked for the definitions, Theorem 1.4, Corollary 1.5 and the reduction; the proofs of Theorems 1.2 and 1.4 read for structure and not checked step by step; nothing is independently reviewed.
Adjacent results (context, not the problem). The squares: Erdős and Newman's ([ErNe77], p. 423), and [ABS09]'s Theorem 1.6 (p. 3) for th powers, no basis of size ; the discontinuity of under small perturbations ([ErNe77], p. 425). The infinite, density-zero form of the question is Problem 333, which the site cross-references. Later work found by the citation search (a 2024 paper on additive bases under change of domain, a 2026 preprint on a conjecture of Bukh, van Hintum and Keevash on additive bases; titles only) does not bear on this statement.
Search scope. None of the routes below found a dispute of Theorem 1.4, an error report, or a source changing the order .
- The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab on 2026-09-18; the formal-conjectures directory listing (no file on that date; the file of 2026-09-20 is recorded under Formalization) and the community database, both on 2026-09-18.
- The primary sources: [ABS09] pp. 1--12 of the authors' version (Sections 1, 3 and 5 in full; Sections 2 and 4 for statements); [ErNe77] printed pp. 420--425.
- Crossref: the bibliographic queries identifying the journal records of [ABS09] and [ErNe77].
- Semantic Scholar: the citation list of [ABS09] (10 records, titles scanned).
- arXiv API: the search
abs:"Erdős" AND abs:"Newman" AND abs:basis AND abs:sumset(no records).
Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Not read: [KoLe92]; the journal text of [ABS09] was not compared with the authors' version.
Remaining gaps. (1) The lower bound is a remark in [ErNe77] without a proof in the paper, restated by [ABS09]; it does not affect the status, which needs only the upper bound. (2) The [ABS09] edition read is the authors' version; the journal text was not compared. (3) Proof coverage is statements only: Theorem 1.4's proof was read for structure, not checked, and Theorem 1.2's random construction not verified. (4) The site's statement asks for without a rate; the sharp order (up to constants) is recorded, the constants and are not compared.
Linked library material
These entries are derived from explicit links on library pages. They are navigation only and do not by themselves record mathematical progress.
- erdos_1977_bases_sets_integers
- erdos_1977_bases_sets_integers / inequality_9
- erdos_1977_bases_sets_integers / question_p425
- erdos_1977_bases_sets_integers / theorem_1
- erdos_1977_bases_sets_integers / theorem_2
- alon_2009_discrete_kakeya_type_problems_small_bases
- alon_2009_discrete_kakeya_type_problems_small_bases / corollary_1_5
- alon_2009_discrete_kakeya_type_problems_small_bases / theorem_1_2
- alon_2009_discrete_kakeya_type_problems_small_bases / theorem_1_4
- alon_2009_discrete_kakeya_type_problems_small_bases / theorem_1_6