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assertion_p33: Erdős's 1964 statement, given without proof, that c n to the power one plus one over k edges force a cycle of length two k, the upper bound whose sharpness Problem 572 asks about.

conjecture_p33: Erdős's 1964 passage on the range k < l ≤ k²/4: the Kővári-Sós-Turán bound forcing K(k,k), the conjecture that it is sharp, and the admission that he has no good estimates for f(n;k,l) there and cannot prove strict monotonicity in l, the origin of Problem 766.

problem_p35: Erdős's 1964 passage on Turán's question for the regular bodies, in which he can force a hexagon with a vertex joined to three non-adjacent vertices of it by c n to the three halves edges but cannot decide whether a cube is forced.

problem_p36: Erdős's 1964 passage on circuits with many diagonals at one vertex: Pósa's theorem for one diagonal, Czipszer's proof giving a threshold kn + c for k − 1 diagonals from a vertex, the bound c ≥ 1 − k², and the question whether c = 1 − k², proved by Erdős for k = 3 and k = 4; the origin of Problem 767.

theorem_p31: Erdős's 1964 statements that [n²/4]+1 edges force K_4 minus an edge and, more generally, that Turán's threshold for K_k already forces K_{k+1} with at most one edge missing, proved independently by Dirac and by Erdős, with the paper's references identified.

theorem_p34: Erdős's 1964 statements for the range l > k²/4: [n²/4]+1 edges force some k-vertex subgraph with more than k²/4 edges for every k at most n, proved independently by Dirac and by Erdős, and for large n a complete bipartite K(k,k) with an extra edge, with the exact values (12) and (13).


P. Erdős: Extremal problems in graph theory, Theory of Graphs and its Applications (Proc. Sympos. Smolenice, 1963) , pp. 29--36, Publ. House Czech. Acad. Sci., Prague, 1964 MR 31 #4735; Zentralblatt 161,205.

Erdős introduces three extremal functions f_1, f_2, f_3(n;k,l) — the fewest edges forcing, respectively, some graph, one fixed graph (the best choice), or every graph on k vertices with l edges — and surveys what is known about them, giving no proofs (p. 29-30). Small cases are worked through: f(n;3,3) = [n^2/4]+1 by Turán, c_1 n^{3/2} < f_1(n;4,4) < c_2 n^{3/2} with Reiman's sharper constants, f(n;4,5) = [n^2/4]+1 (the only G(4;5) being K_4 minus an edge, with the Dirac–Erdős theorem that m(n,k) edges on n vertices, Turán's threshold for K_k, force a K_{k+1} minus at most one edge) and, as a separate statement, f_3(n;5,5) = [n^2/4]+1 for n > n_0 (p. 31, read on the page image), and f_1(n;6,12) > n^2/4 + c_3 n^{3/2} with f_2(n;6,12) < n^2/4 + c_4 n^{3/2}, every G(n; [n^2/4 + c_4 n^{3/2}]) containing an octahedron (pp. 32-33). For general k he states (6) f_1(n;k,k) < c_k' n^{1+1/[k/2]}, conjectures (7) f_1(n;k,k) > c_k'' n^{1+1/[k/2]} ("I can prove (7) only for 3 <= k <= 5"), proves the weaker (8) f_1(n;k,k) > n^{1+eps_k} for a certain eps_k > 0, and states separately, without proof, that every G(n; [c_k''' n^{1+1/k}]) contains a cycle C_{2k} (p. 33, read on the page image); in the range k<l<=k^2/4 the Kővári–Sós–Turán bound c n^{2-1/k} forces K(k,k), and he conjectures f_1(n;2k,k^2) > alpha_k n^{2-1/k}, proved only for k=2 (p. 33). Bearing on Problem 572, this is the paper where the even-cycle Turán problem is set up: Erdős states the upper bound c_k''' n^{1+1/k} for forcing C_{2k}, without proof and with no matching construction, which is what the problem asks for. Bearing on Problem 1021, the paper never defines the graphs G_k, but its p. 33 C_{2k} assertion at k = 3 is their case k = 3: G_3 is the hexagon C_6, and the bound [c_3''' n^{4/3}] for forcing a C_6, asserted without proof, has the exponent 3/2 - 1/6. The p. 35 statement that for large c every G(n, [c n^{3/2}]) contains a hexagon with a vertex joined to three non-adjacent hexagon vertices concerns C_6 with an apex joined to one colour class, the case k = 3 of the graphs G_k of Erdős's 1971 survey (item 15, p. 103), whose apex-deleted forms are Problem 1021's G_k; its bound is of order n^{3/2}, not below it. The p. 35 K(1,3,3) question, where Erdős guesses that [n^2/4] + n + 1 edges suffice and notes that [n^2/4] + n do not, is of order n^2 and does not bear on the problem; an added-in-proof note there reports the guess proved.

Source: https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/1964-06.pdf.

The copy read for this card is the Rényi archive's scan of the eight printed pages 29--36 (printed p. n = PDF p. n-28), with a text layer that misreads the exponents; the passages below were read on rendered page images. No notice is printed in the file; the hosting archive's site footer speaks for the site, not the paper (https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/, prints "(C) 2005-2007 All rights reserved. All material on this site is for scientifics purposes only."); the proceedings have no online publisher edition, so the publisher's page was not consulted and no Crossref license is recorded; the term is unstated.

Read status: claims checked for displays (6)--(8) and the unnumbered C_{2k} assertion on p. 33 (PDF p. 5), and for the p. 35 passage on the regular bodies and the cube (PDF p. 7), read clause by clause on the page images; the paper gives no proofs, so there is nothing further to check; the rest of the digest records an earlier reading that was not repeated here. Claims checked also, and on the page images, for the definitions of f_1, f_2, f_3 and of Turán's m(n,p) with the p. 30 convention that f stands for f_1 (pp. 29--30 = PDF pp. 1--2), the p. 31 statements on f(n;4,5), the Dirac--Erdős theorem and f_3(n;5,5) with references [6] and [7] on p. 36 (PDF pp. 3 and 8), the p. 32 sentences on the graphs G(5;7), G(5;8) and G(5;9) (PDF p. 4), the range k < l <= k^2/4 paragraph of p. 33 (PDF p. 5), the p. 34 statements on l > [k^2/4] with displays (12)--(13) (PDF p. 6) and the Pósa--Czipszer passage on p. 36 (PDF p. 8).

Bears on. #572: the p. 33 assertion, without proof, that every G(n; [c_k''' n^{1+1/k}]) contains a C_{2k}, the origin of the upper bound whose sharpness the problem asks about (assertion_p33); #576: the p. 35 passage in which Turán's question for the regular bodies is stated, c n^{3/2} edges (c large) are said, without proof, to force a hexagon with a vertex joined to three non-adjacent vertices of it, and the cube is left undecided (problem_p35); #714: the p. 33 sentence that the Kővári--Sós--Turán bound, [ckn2−1/k][c_kn^{2-1/k}] edges forcing a K(k,k)K(k,k), seems best possible, with the conjecture f1(n;2k,k2)>αkn2−1/kf_1(n;2k,k^2)>\alpha_kn^{2-1/k}, proved only for k=2k=2 (conjecture_p33); #1021: its case k=3k=3 only, where G3G_3 is the hexagon C6C_6: the p. 33 assertion at k=3k=3 that [c3′′′n4/3][c_3'''n^{4/3}] edges force a C6C_6, the exponent 3/2−1/63/2-1/6 (assertion_p33); #766: the origin, p. 33 (PDF p. 5, page image), the paragraph "Now we investigate the range k<l≤k2/4k<l\le k^2/4" with the conjecture f1(n;2k,k2)>αkn2−1/kf_1(n;2k,k^2)>\alpha_kn^{2-1/k} and the closing admission "I do not have good estimates for f(n;k,l)f(n;k,l), I cannot even prove that for fixed kk and sufficiently large nn, f(n;k,l)f(n;k,l) is a strictly monotone function of ll" (conjecture_p33), where ff is f1f_1 by the p. 30 convention while the site defines its ff as a minimum of Turán numbers; the source of the site's Dirac--Erdős sentence, p. 34 (PDF p. 6), "Dirac and I showed independently that every G(n;[n2/4]+1)\mathfrak G(n;[n^2/4]+1) contains, for every k≤nk\le n, a G(k;[k2/4]+1)\mathfrak G(k;[k^2/4]+1)", with the K(k,k)K(k,k)-plus-an-edge theorem for large nn and displays (12)--(13) (theorem_p34); and the p. 31 statements f(n;4,5)=[n2/4]+1f(n;4,5)=[n^2/4]+1 [6] and the Dirac--Erdős Kk+1K_{k+1}-minus-an-edge theorem [7], with [6] Erdős, Riveon Lematematika 9 (1955) and [7] Dirac, Acta Math. Acad. Sci. Hungar. 14 (1963) identified on p. 36 (theorem_p31); #767: the origin, p. 36 (PDF p. 8, page image), Pósa's theorem for one diagonal, Czipszer's method giving kn+ckn+c edges for a circuit with k−1k-1 diagonals from a vertex, "It is easy to see that c≥1−k2c\ge1-k^2. Perhaps c=1−k2c=1-k^2? For k=2k=2 this is Pósa's result, and I can prove it for k=3k=3 and k=4k=4 also" (problem_p36); the paper counts k−1k-1 diagonals where the site counts kk chords.

Results to transcribe.

  • eq_8_p33: For k>=3 there is eps_k>0 with f_1(n;k,k) > n^{1+eps_k} (the weaker result Erdős can prove in place of the conjectured (7)).
  • eq_9_p34: For every eps>0 there is eta>0 with f(n;k,[(1+eta)k]) < n^{1+eps} for k > k_0(eta) and n > n_0(k,eps,eta) (the opposite inequality, with a different eps, follows from (8)); and (11), introduced by "On the other hand" after (10): for every eps>0 some C(eps) gives f(n;k,Ck) > n^{2-eps}.
  • eq_5_p30: Erdős–Gallai: every graph with e(k,n) = max{C(2k-1,2)+1, (k-1)n-(k-1)^2+C(k-1,2)+1} edges contains k independent edges, and this is best possible.

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