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Erdős 699: effective exclusion of small cofactors at indices four and five

P699 research · The effectivity reduction


For i∈{4,5}i\in\{4,5\}, choose positions r2,r3∈{0,…,i−1}r_2,r_3\in\{0,\ldots,i-1\} maximizing the respective valuations, and write

n−r2=2au,n−r3=3bv.n-r_2=2^a u,\qquad n-r_3=3^b v.

There are effectively computable absolute constants K>0K>0 and NiN_i such that every bad triple at index ii with n≥Nin\ge N_i satisfies

min⁡(u,v)>14exp⁡ ⁣(δilog⁡n2Klog⁡(3log⁡n)),δ4=16,δ5=25.(1)\boxed{\min(u,v)> \frac14\exp\!\left(\frac{\delta_i\log n} {2K\log(3\log n)}\right),\qquad \delta_4=\frac16,\quad\delta_5=\frac25.}\tag{1}

In particular, for every fixed real A≥0A\ge0, all bad triples with min⁡(u,v)≤(log⁡n)A\min(u,v)\le(\log n)^A have an effectively computable upper row bound. The exponents a,ba,b are unrestricted. This is an effective exclusion of an infinite family of rows; the range of larger cofactors remains, so neither entire index becomes effective by this argument.

A uniform two-prime valuation estimate

We use Yu's theorem in the form stated as Theorem 3.2 in Bacik, arXiv:2409.01221v5, §3.1; the source provenance section below records what is held. For q∈{2,3}q\in\{2,3\} there is an effectively computable Cq>0C_q>0 such that, for nonzero rational qq-adic units α1,α2\alpha_1,\alpha_2 and integers e1,e2e_1,e_2, if Ξ=α1e1α2e2−1≠0\Xi=\alpha_1^{e_1}\alpha_2^{e_2}-1\ne0, then

vq(Ξ)≤CqA1A2log⁡B,Aj≥max⁡{h(αj),log⁡q},B≥max⁡{∣e1∣,∣e2∣,3}.(2)v_q(\Xi)\le C_q A_1A_2\log B,\qquad A_j\ge\max\{h(\alpha_j),\log q\},\qquad B\ge\max\{|e_1|,|e_2|,3\}.\tag{2}

Here h(m/d)=log⁡max⁡(∣m∣,∣d∣)h(m/d)=\log\max(|m|,|d|) for a reduced nonzero rational number. The theorem requires nonvanishing of Ξ\Xi, not multiplicative independence of its bases. Thus rational dependencies cause no missing case below.

Suppose {p,q}={2,3}\{p,q\}=\{2,3\} and

pau−qbv=d,0<∣d∣≤4,u,v≥1.p^a u-q^b v=d,\qquad 0<|d|\le4,\qquad u,v\ge1.

Put s=vq(d)s=v_q(d). If b≤sb\le s, then blog⁡q≤log⁡4b\log q\le\log4. Otherwise vq(u)=sv_q(u)=s, since pp is a qq-adic unit. Set u0=u/qsu_0=u/q^s and d0=d/qsd_0=d/q^s. Applying (2) to

α1=p,α2=u0/d0,e1=a,e2=1,Ξ=pau0/d0−1=qb−sv/d0\alpha_1=p,\quad\alpha_2=u_0/d_0,\quad e_1=a,\quad e_2=1,\quad \Xi=p^a u_0/d_0-1=q^{b-s}v/d_0

is legitimate: both bases are qq-adic units and Ξ≠0\Xi\ne0 because v>0v>0. Its valuation is at least b−sb-s; equality holds when q∤vq\nmid v. We may take A1=log⁡3A_1=\log3 and A2=log⁡(4u)A_2=\log(4u). Consequently, with

K=4(1+max⁡(C2,C3)),K=4\bigl(1+\max(C_2,C_3)\bigr),

both branches give the convenient uniform bound

log⁡(qb)≤Klog⁡(4u)log⁡max⁡(a,3).(3)\boxed{\log(q^b)\le K\log(4u)\log\max(a,3).}\tag{3}

This includes the cases q∣dq\mid d, negative dd, and bases equal to 11 or −1-1. If one prefers to omit a base equal to 11, the one-base instance of Yu's theorem gives the same statement after increasing KK effectively.

Applying the quartic and quintic certificates

The retained polynomial estimates imply that badness forces

2a3b>κin1+δi,(4)2^a3^b>\kappa_i n^{1+\delta_i},\tag{4}

where one may take

iδiκirange41/645/6/12n≥1252/546/5/240n≥20.\begin{array}{c|c|c|c} i&\delta_i&\kappa_i&\text{range}\\ \hline 4&1/6&4^{5/6}/12&n\ge12\\ 5&2/5&4^{6/5}/240&n\ge20. \end{array}

For i=4i=4, these are exactly inequalities (11) and (12) of the effectivity note. For i=5i=5, its inequality (5) has m=5m=5, A=6A=6, d=18d=18, so V5<n18/5/46/5V_5<n^{18/5}/4^{6/5}. Also (n5)≥n5/240\binom n5\ge n^5/240 for n≥20n\ge20, whence U5>(46/5/240)n7/5U_5>(4^{6/5}/240)n^{7/5}. The off-maximum valuation estimate in that note gives U5≤2a3bU_5\le2^a3^b: the off-maximum factors contribute at most [4!]{2,3}=[5!]{2,3}=24[4!]_{\{2,3\}}=[5!]_{\{2,3\}}=24 before division by 5!5!. This proves (4) in both cases.

If r2=r3r_2=r_3, then 2a3b∣n−r2≤n2^a3^b\mid n-r_2\le n, contradicting (4) as soon as κinδi≥1\kappa_i n^{\delta_i}\ge1. Hence the positions are distinct in the range below, and d=r3−r2d=r_3-r_2 is nonzero with ∣d∣≤4|d|\le4.

Let

Ni=max⁡{20, κi−2/δi}.N_i=\max\{20,\ \kappa_i^{-2/\delta_i}\}.

For n≥Nin\ge N_i, use 2a=(n−r2)/u≤n/u2^a=(n-r_2)/u\le n/u in (4). Then

log⁡(3b)>δilog⁡n+log⁡u+log⁡κi≥δi2log⁡n+log⁡u.(5)\log(3^b)> \delta_i\log n+\log u+\log\kappa_i \ge\frac{\delta_i}{2}\log n+\log u. \tag{5}

On the other hand, a≤log⁡n/log⁡2a\le\log n/\log2 gives log⁡max⁡(a,3)≤log⁡(3log⁡n)\log\max(a,3)\le\log(3\log n). Combining (3) and (5), and dropping the nonnegative log⁡u\log u, proves the lower bound in (1) for uu. Interchanging the primes and replacing dd by −d-d proves the same bound for vv.

Effectivity of the logarithmic cofactor exclusion

Given A≥0A\ge0, choose an integer T≥4T\ge4 large enough that

eT>2Kδi(T+log⁡3)(log⁡4+AT).(6)e^T>\frac{2K}{\delta_i} (T+\log3)(\log4+AT).\tag{6}

Such a TT can be found effectively. The ratio of the two sides of (6) is increasing for T≥4T\ge4, since the logarithmic derivative of eT/((T+log⁡3)(log⁡4+AT))e^T/((T+\log3)(\log4+AT)) is positive there. For

n≥max⁡{Ni,exp⁡(eT)},n\ge\max\{N_i,\exp(e^T)\},

equation (1) therefore gives u,v>(log⁡n)Au,v>(\log n)^A. No numerical value of the Yu constants, and hence no numerical stopping bound for this subfamily, is evaluated here.

Source provenance

The form of Yu's theorem used above is Theorem 3.2 of Bacik, arXiv:2409.01221v5, §3.1, which cites Kunrui Yu, p-adic logarithmic forms and group varieties II, Acta Arithmetica 89 (1999), 337–378, Theorem 1, DOI. Neither source is held in the library: the repository has no card for Bacik's preprint or for Yu's paper, the reading copy of the preprint from which the statement was taken is not retained here, and the statement has not been checked against Yu's paper. Only this established logarithmic-form theorem is used here; no claim about the Skolem problem is needed.