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Erdős 699: elliptic curves attached to the cubic
P699 research · Erdős problem 699 · The irreducible cubic
The elliptic interpretation gives a uniform theorem: every hypothetical bad triple forces an explicit point of infinite order on a specified quadratic twist of the coefficient cubic. There is also an important distinction between the two cubics in the earlier note: the rational change between their roots does not give an isomorphism of their elliptic curves. These observations do not prove nonexistence or global finiteness of bad triples.
The subsequent two-descent calculation identifies the marked point's square class and proves local nondivisibility by two in a broad range. The conductor argument removes an odd twist and bounds the conductor by a constant times . This makes a uniform bound on that integer a sufficient effective finiteness target, but no such bound is established. The multiplication calculation also reconstructs the parameters after doubling or tripling the point: doubling always loses row integrality, whereas tripling preserves the valuations at two and leaves a question about odd denominators.
Two further results bear on this. The curve finiteness theorem uses the discriminant identity over a polynomial ring to show that every fixed algebraic curve in the -plane contains only finitely many bad pairs, even with the odd part of varying. Thus a global nondensity theorem would suffice, but none has been proved. The section calculation determines the rational sections of the fixed-row elliptic family: the known point generates them. This statement does not control additional points on individual specialized curves.
1. Notation
Assume no odd prime divides both and , where . Use the established notation
Here and are odd. The preceding note proves that
is irreducible, has three distinct roots in , and satisfies
It also supplies the monic irreducible cubic
with positive odd integers .
2. A point of infinite order
Let be the parity of , and put . Consider
Its nonsingular projective completion is an elliptic curve, with its unique point at infinity as identity. It has the rational point
Theorem. The point has infinite order. In particular, . Moreover, .
Proof. The change , gives the integral monic model
At the image of , the tangent slope is . Therefore the doubling formula gives
The first term has two-adic valuation , while the remaining terms are integers. Thus
Rational torsion points on an integral equation of the form (4) have integer coordinates, by Nagell–Lutz. Consequently , and hence , cannot be torsion. A nonzero rational point of order two would give a rational root of , contrary to irreducibility.
The version of Nagell–Lutz used here is stated explicitly in Silverman's answer on integral coordinates of torsion points.
The rational point itself is not an obstruction. If and , the curve always has , even without badness. Under our hypotheses it is isomorphic to : the ratio is a rational square. The theorem adds the infinite-order conclusion using the coefficient integrality and (1).
Thus a rank-zero result for this specified twist of a candidate family would exclude that family. Merely constructing the point does not settle the original problem.
3. The monic substitution gives a quartic
The earlier identity is
Its multiplier depends on through an odd power. It cannot simply be absorbed into the square of an elliptic ordinate.
Set
Substitution in (7), using , gives
Since is even, the change
identifies birationally with
This quartic is nonsingular: has distinct roots, and
The branch point corresponds to the original identity at infinity. The two rational points at infinity of the quartic correspond to and . Thus (8) carries the positive-rank conclusion. The different curve does not inherit that conclusion from this argument.
For another check on the distinction, write for the elliptic -invariant, to distinguish it from the column index. Direct calculation gives
whereas
These are different rational functions. The two curves do have isomorphic Galois modules of two-torsion: (7) identifies their three nonzero two-torsion points equivariantly through the corresponding cubic roots. That is weaker than an isomorphism of elliptic curves.
4. What the monic elliptic curve says about bad reduction
For , the standard invariants are
In our parameters this becomes
Let be a prime not dividing , and suppose . Then and , so . Also . It follows that
The equation is minimal at , with multiplicative reduction of type ; its conductor contains to exponent one. The same statement holds with replaced by . This uses the usual minimal-model reduction criterion.
These primes also survive on the coefficient curve. Put . The model (4) with has
At the same prime , its is a unit and
Twisting by does not change these valuations at odd . Thus neither choice of elliptic curve removes the varying primes from the column factors.
For an additional exact calculation at two, if , then the formula for in the preceding note gives
The discriminant valuation in (12) is for the displayed equation; minimalization can change it. These large powers of two alone are not a contradiction.
There is an explicit minimal model illustrating this. Suppose and , put , and choose so that . On the curve
(either or its twist by ), set , . The result is
This equation is integral at two, since
so the respective valuations are and at least . The new is , an odd integer, and its discriminant valuation is . Consequently it has good reduction for , and multiplicative reduction of type for . In the latter case the reduction is ; its node has rational tangent lines precisely when . Thus large is compatible with ordinary multiplicative reduction after one of these two fixed twists.
5. The missing uniform step
The elliptic curves vary with . Siegel's theorem gives finiteness of integral points on each fixed curve, and Shafarevich's theorem gives finiteness of curves with good reduction outside a fixed finite set. Neither hypothesis has been established uniformly here; see, for example, the precise statements in Li's notes on finiteness theorems.
The existing endpoint and Lucas conditions concern primes dividing . We have no theorem bounding the new conductor primes from , and no common divisibility of their discriminant exponents that would supply a uniform level-lowering argument.
Equation (5) does give a point whose coordinate denominator is a power of two. There is no established reason that further multiples of retain this property, so elliptic divisibility sequences do not yet give an infinite sequence of integral points to which Siegel could be applied.
The useful new target is therefore specific: control the rank or the descent conditions of the marked quartic (8), together with the original endpoint arithmetic. A rank-zero or incompatible-descent theorem for these parameters would prove a contradiction. No such theorem is proved in this note. The quartic transformation, doubling formula, both -invariants, and (11) were checked symbolically; no finite search was performed.