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Erdős 699: elliptic curves attached to the cubic

P699 research · Erdős problem 699 · The irreducible cubic


The elliptic interpretation gives a uniform theorem: every hypothetical bad triple forces an explicit point of infinite order on a specified quadratic twist of the coefficient cubic. There is also an important distinction between the two cubics in the earlier note: the rational change between their roots does not give an isomorphism of their elliptic curves. These observations do not prove nonexistence or global finiteness of bad triples.

The subsequent two-descent calculation identifies the marked point's square class and proves local nondivisibility by two in a broad range. The conductor argument removes an odd twist and bounds the conductor by a constant times Disc⁡P\operatorname{Disc}P. This makes a uniform bound on that integer a sufficient effective finiteness target, but no such bound is established. The multiplication calculation also reconstructs the parameters after doubling or tripling the point: doubling always loses row integrality, whereas tripling preserves the valuations at two and leaves a question about odd denominators.

Two further results bear on this. The curve finiteness theorem uses the discriminant identity over a polynomial ring to show that every fixed algebraic curve in the (n,j)(n,j)-plane contains only finitely many bad pairs, even with the odd part of nn varying. Thus a global nondensity theorem would suffice, but none has been proved. The section calculation determines the rational sections of the fixed-row elliptic family: the known point generates them. This statement does not control additional points on individual specialized curves.

1. Notation

Assume no odd prime divides both (n3)\binom n3 and (nj)\binom nj, where 4≤j<n/24\le j<n/2. Use the established notation

n=2hu,c=n−j,t=v2(j)=v2(c),m=h−t≥2,W=u(n−1)(n−2)6.n=2^h u,\quad c=n-j,\quad t=v_2(j)=v_2(c),\quad m=h-t\ge2,\quad W=\frac{u(n-1)(n-2)}6.

Here uu and WW are odd. The preceding note proves that

P(z)=12tW∑r=03(j3−r)(cr)zr=az3+bz2+ez+f∈Z[z]P(z)=\frac{1}{2^tW} \sum_{r=0}^3\binom j{3-r}\binom cr z^r =az^3+bz^2+ez+f\in\mathbb Z[z]

is irreducible, has three distinct roots in (−1,0)(-1,0), and satisfies

P(1)=2m,P′(1) odd.(1)P(1)=2^m,\qquad P'(1)\text{ odd}.\tag{1}

It also supplies the monic irreducible cubic

H(w)=w3−kw+2q,k=3jc22t(n−1),q=jc(c−j)23t(n−1)(n−2),(2)H(w)=w^3-kw+2q,\qquad k=\frac{3jc}{2^{2t}(n-1)},\quad q=\frac{jc(c-j)}{2^{3t}(n-1)(n-2)},\tag{2}

with positive odd integers k,qk,q.

2. A point of infinite order

Let ϵ∈{0,1}\epsilon\in\{0,1\} be the parity of mm, and put D=2ϵD=2^\epsilon. Consider

ED:y2=DP(z).E_D:\quad y^2=DP(z).

Its nonsingular projective completion is an elliptic curve, with its unique point at infinity as identity. It has the rational point

Q=(1,2(m+ϵ)/2).(3)Q=\left(1,2^{(m+\epsilon)/2}\right).\tag{3}

Theorem. The point QQ has infinite order. In particular, rank⁡ED(Q)≥1\operatorname{rank}E_D(\mathbb Q)\ge1. Moreover, ED(Q)[2]=0E_D(\mathbb Q)[2]=0.

Proof. The change X=DazX=Da z, Y=DayY=Da y gives the integral monic model

Y2=X3+DbX2+D2aeX+D3a2f.(4)Y^2=X^3+DbX^2+D^2aeX+D^3a^2f.\tag{4}

At the image of QQ, the tangent slope is DP′(1)/(2y(Q))DP'(1)/(2y(Q)). Therefore the doubling formula gives

X(2Q)=DP′(1)24P(1)−Db−2Da.(5)X(2Q)=\frac{DP'(1)^2}{4P(1)}-Db-2Da.\tag{5}

The first term has two-adic valuation ϵ−m−2<0\epsilon-m-2<0, while the remaining terms are integers. Thus

v2(X(2Q))=ϵ−m−2<0.(6)v_2\bigl(X(2Q)\bigr)=\epsilon-m-2<0.\tag{6}

Rational torsion points on an integral equation of the form (4) have integer coordinates, by Nagell–Lutz. Consequently 2Q2Q, and hence QQ, cannot be torsion. A nonzero rational point of order two would give a rational root of PP, contrary to irreducibility. □\square

The version of Nagell–Lutz used here is stated explicitly in Silverman's answer on integral coordinates of torsion points.

The rational point itself is not an obstruction. If T=(n3)T=\binom n3 and R=2tWPR=2^tWP, the curve v2=TR(z)v^2=TR(z) always has (z,v)=(1,T)(z,v)=(1,T), even without badness. Under our hypotheses it is isomorphic to EDE_D: the ratio TR/(DP)=2h+t−ϵW2TR/(DP)=2^{h+t-\epsilon}W^2 is a rational square. The theorem adds the infinite-order conclusion using the coefficient integrality and (1).

Thus a rank-zero result for this specified twist of a candidate family would exclude that family. Merely constructing the point does not settle the original problem.

3. The monic substitution gives a quartic

The earlier identity is

P(z)=22t(1−z)3un2H ⁣(j+cz2t(1−z)).(7)P(z)=\frac{2^{2t}(1-z)^3}{un^2} H\!\left(\frac{j+cz}{2^t(1-z)}\right).\tag{7}

Its multiplier depends on zz through an odd power. It cannot simply be absorbed into the square of an elliptic ordinate.

Set

w=j+cz2t(1−z),C=c2t,z=2tw−j2tw+c.w=\frac{j+cz}{2^t(1-z)},\qquad C=\frac c{2^t},\qquad z=\frac{2^tw-j}{2^tw+c}.

Substitution in (7), using n=2hun=2^hu, gives

P(z)(2tw+c)4=2h+3t(w+C)H(w).P(z)(2^tw+c)^4=2^{h+3t}(w+C)H(w).

Since h+3t+ϵh+3t+\epsilon is even, the change

V=y(2tw+c)22(h+3t+ϵ)/2V=\frac{y(2^tw+c)^2}{2^{(h+3t+\epsilon)/2}}

identifies EDE_D birationally with

V2=(w+C)H(w).(8)V^2=(w+C)H(w).\tag{8}

This quartic is nonsingular: HH has distinct roots, and

H(−C)=−n2c(c−1)(c−2)23t(n−1)(n−2)≠0.H(-C)=-\frac{n^2c(c-1)(c-2)} {2^{3t}(n-1)(n-2)}\ne0.

The branch point w=−Cw=-C corresponds to the original identity at infinity. The two rational points at infinity of the quartic correspond to QQ and −Q-Q. Thus (8) carries the positive-rank conclusion. The different curve EH:v2=H(w)E_H:v^2=H(w) does not inherit that conclusion from this argument.

For another check on the distinction, write j\mathfrak j for the elliptic jj-invariant, to distinguish it from the column index. Direct calculation gives

j(ED)=1728jc2(n−2)(j−1)(n−1)(c−2)2,(9)\mathfrak j(E_D)= \frac{1728jc^2(n-2)}{(j-1)(n-1)(c-2)^2},\tag{9}

whereas

j(EH)=1728k3k3−27q2=1728jc(n−2)2n2(j−1)(c−1).(10)\mathfrak j(E_H)=\frac{1728k^3}{k^3-27q^2} =\frac{1728jc(n-2)^2}{n^2(j-1)(c-1)}.\tag{10}

These are different rational functions. The two curves do have isomorphic Galois modules of two-torsion: (7) identifies their three nonzero two-torsion points equivariantly through the corresponding cubic roots. That is weaker than an isomorphism of elliptic curves.

4. What the monic elliptic curve says about bad reduction

For EH:v2=w3−kw+2qE_H:v^2=w^3-kw+2q, the standard invariants are

c4=48k,c6=−1728q,ΔH=64(k3−27q2).c_4=48k,\qquad c_6=-1728q,\qquad \Delta_H=64(k^3-27q^2).

In our parameters this becomes

ΔH=1728j2c2n2(j−1)(c−1)26t(n−1)3(n−2)2.(11)\Delta_H= \frac{1728j^2c^2n^2(j-1)(c-1)} {2^{6t}(n-1)^3(n-2)^2}.\tag{11}

Let pp be a prime not dividing 6n(n−1)(n−2)6n(n-1)(n-2), and suppose ep=vp(j−1)>0e_p=v_p(j-1)>0. Then j≡1(modp)j\equiv1\pmod p and c≡n−1≢0(modp)c\equiv n-1\not\equiv0\pmod p, so vp(k)=0v_p(k)=0. Also c−1≡n−2≢0(modp)c-1\equiv n-2\not\equiv0\pmod p. It follows that

vp(c4)=0,vp(ΔH)=ep.v_p(c_4)=0,\qquad v_p(\Delta_H)=e_p.

The equation is minimal at pp, with multiplicative reduction of type IepI_{e_p}; its conductor contains pp to exponent one. The same statement holds with j−1j-1 replaced by c−1c-1. This uses the usual minimal-model reduction criterion.

These primes also survive on the coefficient curve. Put L=2tWL=2^tW. The model (4) with D=1D=1 has

c4=4jc2(c−1)(n−2)L2,Δ=16a2Disc⁡P.c_4=\frac{4jc^2(c-1)(n-2)}{L^2},\qquad \Delta=16a^2\operatorname{Disc}P.

At the same prime p∣j−1p\mid j-1, its c4c_4 is a unit and

vp(Δ)=ep+2vp(c−2)>0.v_p(\Delta)=e_p+2v_p(c-2)>0.

Twisting by D∈{1,2}D\in\{1,2\} does not change these valuations at odd pp. Thus neither choice of elliptic curve removes the varying primes from the column factors.

For an additional exact calculation at two, if t≥1t\ge1, then the formula for Disc⁡P\operatorname{Disc}P in the preceding note gives

v2(Disc⁡P)=0,v2(ΔH)=2m+4,v2(j(EH))=8−2m.(12)v_2(\operatorname{Disc}P)=0,\quad v_2(\Delta_H)=2m+4,\quad v_2(\mathfrak j(E_H))=8-2m.\tag{12}

The discriminant valuation in (12) is for the displayed equation; minimalization can change it. These large powers of two alone are not a contradiction.

There is an explicit minimal model illustrating this. Suppose t≥1t\ge1 and m≥4m\ge4, put J=j/2tJ=j/2^t, and choose η∈{1,−1}\eta\in\{1,-1\} so that r=ηJ≡3(mod4)r=\eta J\equiv3\pmod4. On the curve

v2=w3−kw+2ηqv^2=w^3-kw+2\eta q

(either EHE_H or its twist by −1-1), set w=4X+rw=4X+r, v=8Y+4Xv=8Y+4X. The result is

Y2+XY=X3+3r−14X2+H′(J)16X+ηH(J)64.(13)Y^2+XY=X^3+\frac{3r-1}{4}X^2+ \frac{H'(J)}{16}X+\frac{\eta H(J)}{64}.\tag{13}

This equation is integral at two, since

H′(J)=3J 2mu(j−1)n−1,H(J)=22mu3P(0),H'(J)=\frac{3J\,2^m u(j-1)}{n-1},\qquad H(J)=2^{2m}u^3P(0),

so the respective valuations are mm and at least 2m2m. The new c4c_4 is 3k3k, an odd integer, and its discriminant valuation is 2m−82m-8. Consequently it has good reduction for m=4m=4, and multiplicative reduction of type I2m−8I_{2m-8} for m≥5m\ge5. In the latter case the reduction is Y2+XY=X3+(3r−1)/4‾X2Y^2+XY=X^3+\overline{(3r-1)/4}X^2; its node has rational tangent lines precisely when r≡3(mod8)r\equiv3\pmod8. Thus large mm is compatible with ordinary multiplicative reduction after one of these two fixed twists.

5. The missing uniform step

The elliptic curves vary with n,jn,j. Siegel's theorem gives finiteness of integral points on each fixed curve, and Shafarevich's theorem gives finiteness of curves with good reduction outside a fixed finite set. Neither hypothesis has been established uniformly here; see, for example, the precise statements in Li's notes on finiteness theorems.

The existing endpoint and Lucas conditions concern primes dividing n(n−1)(n−2)n(n-1)(n-2). We have no theorem bounding the new conductor primes from (j−1)(c−1)(j-1)(c-1), and no common divisibility of their discriminant exponents that would supply a uniform level-lowering argument.

Equation (5) does give a point whose coordinate denominator is a power of two. There is no established reason that further multiples of QQ retain this property, so elliptic divisibility sequences do not yet give an infinite sequence of integral points to which Siegel could be applied.

The useful new target is therefore specific: control the rank or the descent conditions of the marked quartic (8), together with the original endpoint arithmetic. A rank-zero or incompatible-descent theorem for these parameters would prove a contradiction. No such theorem is proved in this note. The quartic transformation, doubling formula, both jj-invariants, and (11) were checked symbolically; no finite search was performed.