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Erdős 699: the index-13 interpolation system has no fixed curve

P699 research · Erdős problem 699 · The initial interpolation construction


The complete polynomial space defined below has constant common gcd. Its common zero set is therefore finite and has an explicit coordinate bound. This supplies the nonvanishing step for the improved, monotone index-13 certificate. The calculation concerns one fixed interpolation system; it does not enumerate binomial rows or columns.

The improved system

Put

h=(57,54,45,39,32,24,13,3,0,0,0,0,0),m=(114,111,111,103,99,99,89,78,70,63,57,51,46).h=(57,54,45,39,32,24,13,3,0,0,0,0,0), \qquad m=(114,111,111,103,99,99,89,78,70,63,57,51,46).

For each integer grid point x,y≥0x,y\ge0, x+y≤12x+y\le12, prescribe multiplicity

Rxy=max⁡{0,mx+y−hx−hy}.R_{xy}=\max\{0,m_{x+y}-h_x-h_y\}.

Let VV be the complete rational vector space of polynomials of total degree at most 106106 with these prescribed multiplicities. Its symmetric subspace consists of the polynomials satisfying G(X,Y)=G(Y,X)G(X,Y)=G(Y,X).

The exact totals are

∑Rxy=844,∑Rxy2=10738,∑(Rxy+12)=5791.\sum R_{xy}=844,\qquad \sum R_{xy}^2=10738,\qquad \sum\binom{R_{xy}+1}{2}=5791.

These 5791 jet equations need not be independent. The proof below uses the rank of the smaller symmetric system, and makes no independence assumption about the full system.

For G∈VG\in V, set

H(X,Y)=∏a=012((X−a)(Y−a))ha,F=HG.H(X,Y)=\prod_{a=0}^{12}((X-a)(Y-a))^{h_a},\qquad F=HG.

Then deg⁡H=534\deg H=534, deg⁡F≤640\deg F\le640, and the multiplicity of FF at every Kummer point on row x+y=tx+y=t is at least mtm_t. Also H(j,c)>0H(j,c)>0 throughout the physical range 13<j≤c13<j\le c. Thus common physical zeros introduced by this construction are precisely those of VV.

Exact modular certificate

Use the prime p=65521p=65521. The symmetric monomial basis consists of

XaYb+XbYa(a<b),XaYa(a=b),a+b≤106,X^aY^b+X^bY^a\quad(a<b),\qquad X^aY^a\quad(a=b), \qquad a+b\le106,

ordered by increasing total degree and then increasing aa. There are 2916 basis elements.

At a point x<yx<y, impose every Hasse Taylor coefficient of order less than RxyR_{xy}. At a diagonal point x=yx=y, retain only coefficients indexed by (u,v)(u,v) with u≤vu\le v; symmetry identifies the omitted coefficients with these. The conditions at x>yx>y are likewise duplicates. This gives 2911 integer equations and an integer matrix AA.

The exact checker and its retained certificate verify:

QuantityExact value
Modulus6552165521, prime
Matrix shape2911×29162911\times2916
Rank modulo 655216552129112911
Symmetric nullity55
Degrees of the two retained kernel sections106,106106,106
Their gcd in F65521[X,Y]\mathbb F_{65521}[X,Y]11

The JSON stores the coefficients of the two sections in the stated symmetric basis. Verification reconstructs the jet matrix, computes its rank exactly, checks both matrix products are zero, and computes the full bivariate polynomial gcd. Computing the gcd over Fp(X)[Y]\mathbb F_p(X)[Y] alone would not suffice, because it could discard factors depending only on XX.

To reproduce, with the pinned dependencies installed in the repository's .venv/:

sh
uv run --no-sync --with numpy --with python-flint python wiki/research/erdos_699/computations/erdos_699_index_13_interpolation_gcd.py

The checker requires NumPy and python-flint, neither declared by the repository, so the command supplies both. Its --regenerate option recomputes the retained sections by exact nullspace calculation.

Why this proves the rational statement

Two modular polynomials with gcd 11 do not, by themselves, prove that arbitrary rational lifts are coprime. A rational factor could reduce to a nonzero constant. The complete interpolation space removes that issue.

First put R=Z(p)R=\mathbb Z_{(p)}. Full row rank of AA modulo pp supplies a maximal minor that is a unit in RR. Assigning arbitrary lifts to the free coefficients and solving for the pivot coefficients shows that

ker⁡RA⟶ker⁡FpA‾\ker_R A\longrightarrow\ker_{\mathbb F_p}\overline A

is surjective. Consequently the two retained modular sections lift to symmetric polynomials G1,G2∈V∩R[X,Y]G_1,G_2\in V\cap R[X,Y].

Suppose an irreducible polynomial f∈Q[X,Y]f\in\mathbb Q[X,Y] divided every element of the complete space VV. Then ff would vanish at a prescribed grid point with positive multiplicity. Otherwise ff is a unit in the local ring at every such point. Dividing a section by ff then preserves all prescribed multiplicities and decreases its degree, so the quotient is still in VV. Repeating until the factor is removed contradicts its being common to VV.

Normalize ff to a primitive integer polynomial. Its reduction modulo pp is nonzero, and its zero at an integer support point ensures that this reduction is nonconstant. Gauss's lemma over RR shows that Gi/f∈R[X,Y]G_i/f\in R[X,Y]. Reduction therefore makes the nonconstant polynomial f‾\overline f a common divisor of the two retained modular sections, contrary to their gcd 11.

Thus gcd⁡(V)=1\gcd(V)=1. The argument uses the completeness of VV in its division step, although the modular sections come from its symmetric subspace. It does not assert that the particular rational lifts G1,G2G_1,G_2 are coprime.

An explicit bound for the common zero set

No rational kernel or rational resultant needs to be computed to prove effectivity. Put

d=106,N=(1082)=5778,C=N! 13dN,B=NdC,d=106,\quad N=\binom{108}{2}=5778,\quad C=N!\,13^{dN},\quad B=NdC,

and

R=(2d)!((d+1)B)2d.\mathcal R=(2d)!\bigl((d+1)B\bigr)^{2d}.

Every common zero of VV satisfies

∣X∣,∣Y∣≤1+R.\boxed{|X|,|Y|\le1+\mathcal R.}

Indeed, every entry of the full integer Hasse-jet matrix has magnitude at most 13d13^d: for a monomial XaYbX^aY^b, its jet coefficient is (au)xa−u(bv)yb−v\binom au x^{a-u}\binom bv y^{b-v}, bounded by (1+x)a(1+y)b≤13d(1+x)^a(1+y)^b\le13^d. Choose a maximal nonsingular minor of this matrix. Cofactor kernel vectors give an integer rational basis F1,…,FkF_1,\ldots,F_k of VV whose individual coefficients have magnitude at most CC. This follows directly by expanding determinants; the rank is less than NN.

If a basis element is a nonzero constant, the common zero set is empty. Otherwise choose F1≠0F_1\ne0. It has at most dd distinct irreducible factors. For any one of them, combinations

∑i=1kaiFi,(a1,…,ak)∈{0,…,d}k,\sum_{i=1}^k a_iF_i,\qquad (a_1,\ldots,a_k)\in\{0,\ldots,d\}^k,

that are divisible by the factor occupy at most (d+1)k−1(d+1)^{k-1} choices: at least one FiF_i is not divisible by it, and fixing the other coefficients allows at most one value of that aia_i. Because d(d+1)k−1<(d+1)kd(d+1)^{k-1}<(d+1)^k, some combination F2F_2 is coprime to F1F_1. Its coefficient height is at most BB, as is that of F1F_1.

The resultants eliminating XX and eliminating YY are nonzero. Expanding their Sylvester determinants bounds their coefficient norms by R\mathcal R: their sizes are at most 2d2d, and each entry has coefficient norm at most (d+1)B(d+1)B. Cauchy's root bound gives the displayed coordinate bound. If both polynomials omit one variable, their coprimality already makes their common zero set empty.

In particular, every physical common zero satisfies the explicit bound

n=X+Y≤2(1+R)<10265000000.n=X+Y\le2(1+\mathcal R)<10^{265000000}.

For the final loose decimal inequality, use N<104N<10^4, 13<10213<10^2, Nd<106Nd<10^6, d+1<103d+1<10^3, and 2d<1032d<10^3. These give C<101248048C<10^{1248048} and R<10264588720\mathcal R<10^{264588720}. This is a bound for the common zero set. The complete arithmetic row bound must also include the BFT thresholds and the bounds obtained from nonzero polynomial evaluations.