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Near-minimal distance counts on convex monotone chains


This extends the bounded-omission mechanism in constant_width_inverse. It does not resolve either unrestricted assertion of Problem 132.

A chain inverse theorem

Call an ordered strictly convex set C=(p0,…,pm−1)C=(p_0,\ldots,p_{m-1}) distance-monotone if, whenever i<j<ki<j<k,

∣pipj∣<∣pipk∣,∣pjpk∣<∣pipk∣.|p_ip_j|<|p_ip_k|,\qquad |p_jp_k|<|p_ip_k|.

Theorem. For each fixed L≥0L\ge0, there are cL>0c_L>0 and mLm_L such that, if m≥mLm\ge m_L and q(C)≤m−1+Lq(C)\le m-1+L, then some circle contains at least cLmc_Lm points of CC.

List the distances as d1<⋯<dqd_1<\cdots<d_q and write r(i,j)r(i,j) for the rank of ∣pipj∣|p_ip_j|, i<ji<j. Growing the interval [i,i+1][i,i+1] to [i,j][i,j] proves r(i,j)≥j−ir(i,j)\ge j-i. Extending [i,j][i,j] to [0,m−1][0,m-1] increases rank strictly at every step, so

q≥r(i,j)+(m−1)−(j−i).q\ge r(i,j)+(m-1)-(j-i).

Consequently

j−i≤r(i,j)≤j−i+L.(1)j-i\le r(i,j)\le j-i+L. \tag{1}

Put E=⌈L⌉E=\lceil L\rceil and ei(k)=r(i,i+k)−ke_i(k)=r(i,i+k)-k. Each row is nondecreasing, takes values in {0,…,E}\{0,\ldots,E\}, and has at most EE jumps. Set s=⌊m/4⌋s=\lfloor m/4\rfloor, and restrict to rows 0≤i<s0\le i<s and offsets 1≤k≤s1\le k\le s.

Choose NN so that every (E+1)2(E+1)^2-coloring of NN consecutive integers has a monochromatic four-term arithmetic progression, and choose M≥8N(E+1)M\ge8N(E+1). These are constants depending only on LL. Partition [1,s][1,s] into MM consecutive intervals of almost equal length. Some interval J=[u,v]J=[u,v], of length ΩL(m)\Omega_L(m), has fewer than s/(8N)s/(8N) rows nonconstant on it: each row is nonconstant on at most EE intervals.

For large enough mm, all intervals [Na,Na+1][N^a,N^{a+1}], 0≤a<M0\le a<M, fit in [1,s][1,s]. Each jump is internal to at most one such interval, so some H=[h,Nh]H=[h,Nh] also has fewer than s/(8N)s/(8N) nonconstant rows. Here hh is bounded in terms of LL alone.

Call a row good if it is constant on both JJ and HH, and give it the ordered pair of its constant values as color. Fewer than s/(4N)s/(4N) rows are bad. Each bad row spoils at most NN progressions

i,i+h,…,i+(N−1)hi,i+h,\ldots,i+(N-1)h

contained in [0,s−1][0,s-1]. There are s−OL(1)s-O_L(1) possible starts, so one progression is entirely good. By the choice of NN, it contains four same-colored rows

a,a+k,a+2k,a+3k,a,\quad a+k,\quad a+2k,\quad a+3k,

where k=dh=OL(1)k=dh=O_L(1) and k,2k∈Hk,2k\in H.

Set xℓ=pa+ℓkx_\ell=p_{a+\ell k}. Formula (1) and the common row values on HH give

∣x0x1∣=∣x1x2∣=∣x2x3∣,∣x0x2∣=∣x1x3∣.|x_0x_1|=|x_1x_2|=|x_2x_3|, \qquad |x_0x_2|=|x_1x_3|.

The successive triangles are congruent and have the same orientation. The direct isometry TT taking (x0,x1,x2)(x_0,x_1,x_2) to (x1,x2,x3)(x_1,x_2,x_3) cannot be a translation, since three consecutive anchors are noncollinear. Thus TT is a nontrivial rotation.

Write zj=pa+jz_j=p_{a+j}, and let bb be the common row value on JJ. For u+2k≤j≤vu+2k\le j\le v and ℓ=0,1,2\ell=0,1,2,

∣zj+k−xℓ+1∣=dj−ℓk+b=∣zj−xℓ∣.|z_{j+k}-x_{\ell+1}|=d_{j-\ell k+b}=|z_j-x_\ell|.

Distances to three noncollinear anchors determine a point uniquely, so zj+k=Tzjz_{j+k}=Tz_j. A consecutive interval of ΩL(m)\Omega_L(m) indices therefore splits into at most k=OL(1)k=O_L(1) rotation orbits. One orbit contains ΩL(m)\Omega_L(m) distinct points on a positive-radius circle. All indices used are less than 2s+OL(1)<m2s+O_L(1)<m; there is no cyclic wrap in this argument. This proves the theorem.

Half-sized chains suffice for growth

Corollary. Fix t≥0t\ge0. If each nn-point set in a sequence contains a distance-monotone strictly convex chain with at least n/2−tn/2-t points, then R(A)→∞R(A)\to\infty as n→∞n\to\infty.

Otherwise, on an unbounded subsequence R(A)≤KR(A)\le K. The pair budget gives q(A)≤n/2+Kq(A)\le n/2+K, so for the mm-point chain,

q(C)≤m−1+(K+t+1).q(C)\le m-1+(K+t+1).

The theorem supplies a positive circular fraction of the full set. The checked circle-incidence theorem then forces linearly many rare distances, a contradiction. Thresholds and multiplicities here are always for the full nn-point set.

One example is a strictly convex set whose minimum enclosing disk has two antipodal support vertices. The more populous closed semicircle, counting both endpoints, contains at least n/2+1n/2+1 vertices and forms a cap. Every ordered middle angle in a cap is at least π/2\pi/2, which implies the required strict distance monotonicity by the cosine rule.

The cap facts were checked in Nivasch--Pach--Pinchasi--Zerbib, The number of distinct distances from a vertex of a convex polygon, Definition 5 and Properties 1--2, pp. 4--5. Their enclosing-circle argument splits an arbitrary convex set into at most three caps; that gives only a third-sized cap, not the half-sized chain needed here.

Exact obstruction to a diameter-cut shortcut

A convex subpolygon with a diameter side need not be distance-monotone. The consecutive vertices

(0,0), (7/10,16/25), (9/10,27/100), (1,0)(0,0),\ (7/10,16/25),\ (9/10,27/100),\ (1,0)

form a strictly convex quadrilateral whose closing side is its unique diameter. Yet the first vertex has successive squared distances 2249/2500=0.89962249/2500=0.8996 and 8829/10000=0.88298829/10000=0.8829, in decreasing order. All six squared lengths are at most one, and the four consecutive cross products have the same strict sign.

Thus Altman's maximal-side lemma alone does not produce the required chain. Nor does the existing outer-layer reduction give a chain of half the full cardinality: its positive fraction can be much smaller. These remain substantive gaps, not consequences of the theorem.

The author checked the rank estimates, row selection, and rotation propagation; the argument is author-recorded. No unrestricted proof or counterexample resulted.