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Problem 118

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claims/: The 3 claim pages of Problem 118, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.


Statement. Let α\alpha be a cardinal or ordinal number or an order type such that every two-colouring of KαK_\alpha contains either a red KαK_\alpha or a blue K3K_3. For every n≥3n\geq 3 must every two-colouring of KαK_\alpha contain either a red KαK_\alpha or a blue KnK_n?

Status. Disproved.

Source. erdosproblems.com/118, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #118, https://www.erdosproblems.com/118.

References.

  • [Da99] Darby, Carl, Negative partition relations for ordinals ωωα\omega^{\omega^\alpha}. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B (1999), 205-222.
  • [HST10] Foreman, Matthew and Kanamori, Akihiro, Handbook of set theory. Vols. 1, 2, 3. (2010), Vol. 1: xiv+736 pp.; Vol. 2: pp. i-xiv and 737-1447; Vol. 3: pp. i-xiv and 1449-2197.
  • [La00] Larson, Jean A., An ordinal partition avoiding pentagrams. J. Symbolic Logic (2000), 969-978.
  • [Sc10] Schipperus, Rene, Countable partition ordinals. Ann. Pure Appl. Logic 161 (2010), 1195--1215, doi:10.1016/j.apal.2009.12.007 (received 9 May 2007, accepted 26 December 2009, available online 13 May 2010, per p. 1195). Its closing remark, p. 1215, "ωω2→(ωω2,3)2\omega^{\omega^2}\to(\omega^{\omega^2},3)^2 but ωω2↛(ωω2,6)2\omega^{\omega^2}\not\to(\omega^{\omega^2},6)^2. Thus it is not true that α→(α,3)2\alpha\to(\alpha,3)^2 implies α→(α,n)2\alpha\to(\alpha,n)^2 for all n<ωn<\omega", follows from Theorem 28, p. 1212, and Theorem 29(1), p. 1213 (proved as Theorem 31, p. 1214); the abstract announces the example, and p. 1197 attributes the question to Specker (1957) and Erdős (1992) and reports Larson's sharpening of the 6 to a 5 [La00]. Library home: schipperus_2010_countable_partition_ordinals and its theorem_28 and theorem_29 pages.
  • [Sc99] Schipperus, Rene J., Countable partition ordinals. (1999), 57.

Formalization. None recorded.

Current assessment

The standing judges the site's formulation of 2026-09-04 above; in arrow notation it asks whether α→(α,3)2\alpha\to(\alpha,3)^2 forces α→(α,n)2\alpha\to(\alpha,n)^2 for every finite nn, the conjecture of Erdős and Hajnal about partition ordinals. The answer is no. The counterexample is α=ωω2\alpha=\omega^{\omega^2}: Schipperus [Sc99, Sc10] proves ωω2→(ωω2,3)2\omega^{\omega^2}\to(\omega^{\omega^2},3)^2 (Theorem 28) and ωω2↛(ωω2,6)2\omega^{\omega^2}\not\to(\omega^{\omega^2},6)^2 (Theorem 29(1)); his paper credits Darby [Da99] with an independent proof of the negative relations for ωωβ\omega^{\omega^\beta} with β\beta finite and reports that Darby also proved the positive one independently, citing no paper for it. Larson [La00] sharpened the 66 to a 55, and Schipperus reports without proof that Larson also proved ωω2→(ωω2,4)2\omega^{\omega^2}\to(\omega^{\omega^2},4)^2, so 55 is the exact boundary for this α\alpha. The three results have accepted claim pages, Schipperus 1999, Darby 1999 and Larson 2000. Schipperus's page carries a refereed journal paper and the site's curator's credit; Darby's and Larson's carry the curator's credit alone: each account rests on the paper's journal record, on Schipperus's report (p. 1197) and, for Darby, on Erdős 1995 §1, and each rests on Schipperus's proof of the positive relation for the half those sources do not supply. [HST10], Chapter 2.9, gives the background. Search scope, 2026-10-07: the site's problem page, discussion thread and proof-claims page, which carry no further claim. Nothing on this page is independently reviewed.

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