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Problem 1030
Statement. Let be the usual Ramsey number: the smallest such that if the edges of are coloured red and blue then there exists either a red or a blue .
Prove the existence of some such that
Formulation. The Statement is the site's wording as accessed 2026-09-17 (page last edited 23 March 2026). The limit is as ; the site's author confirmed this in the thread on 23 March 2026 after a question raised while the statement was being formalized. As written, the statement presumes that the limit exists; the formal-conjectures file encodes exactly that, the existence of a limit with . Asking only that would be a variant. By symmetry . The site attributes the problem to Erdős and Sós and cites [Er93, p. 339]. That page (Chapter II, display (10)) prints the conjecture as "We also conjectured that (10) ", with no limit and no range of , the "we" being Vera Sós and Erdős from the sentence introducing (9); the site's limit form is its own rendering of the survey's inequality. The earliest statement located is display (7) of Erdős's 1981 survey [Er81] (printed p. 11): , which Erdős introduces as a conjecture of Burr and himself and calls intractable at the time, again with no limit and no range of . The two surveys thus attribute the conjecture differently, to Burr and Erdős in 1981 and to Erdős and Sós in 1993; the site follows the 1993 survey.
Status. Open. The source results in hand are additive. Burr, Erdős, Faudree and Schelp's Theorem 1 with , gives for (the site's commentary quotes ), and Erdős's 1981 survey states, without giving the proof, that he, Faudree, Rousseau and Schelp had proved the superlinear gap ; neither says anything about the ratio, because grows exponentially, and the 1989 authors themselves expect exponential gaps but prove none. No source bounding the ratio away from , or showing it tends to , was found in the search whose scope the Current assessment records. This is a bounded negative finding, not a certificate of openness.
Source. erdosproblems.com/1030, accessed 2026-09-17: the problem page (OPEN; last edited 23 March 2026; source key [Er93, p. 339]; commentary citing [BEFS89]), its two-comment discussion thread (23 March 2026) and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #1030, https://www.erdosproblems.com/1030, accessed 2026-09-17.
References.
- [BEFS89] Burr, S. A., Erdős, P., Faudree, R. J. and Schelp, R. H., On the difference between consecutive Ramsey numbers. Utilitas Math. 35 (1989), 115--118. Theorem 1 and Corollary, p. 115; Theorem 2, p. 116; the remark on growth, p. 117. Library home: burr_1989_difference_between_consecutive_ramsey_numbers.
- [Er93] Erdős, Paul, Some of my favorite solved and unsolved problems in graph theory. Quaestiones Math. 16 (1993), 333--350; the site cites p. 339. Chapter II, displays (10) and (11), printed pp. 339--340: "We also conjectured that (10) but we could not even prove (11) for any " (as printed). Library home: erdos_1993_my_favorite_solved_unsolved_problems_graph_theory.
- [Er81] Erdős, P., Some new problems and results in graph theory and other branches of combinatorial mathematics. Combinatorics and graph theory (Calcutta, 1980), Lecture Notes in Math. 885, Springer, Berlin--New York (1981), 9--17. Printed p. 11 of the typescript: displays (7) and (8) and the expected limit of the ratio. Library home: erdos_1981_new_problems_results_graph_theory_other.
- [Br26] Bradač, D., Off-diagonal Ramsey numbers. arXiv:2605.28793 (v3 16 June 2026). Context: near-diagonal lower bounds, display (5) and Theorem 1.5, p. 3. Library home: bradac_2026_off_diagonal_ramsey_numbers.
- [MSX25] Ma, J., Shen, W. and Xie, S., An exponential improvement for Ramsey lower bounds. arXiv:2507.12926 (v1 17 July 2025; v2 26 April 2026). Context on ; not held.
Formalization. Statement only. The file
ErdosProblems/1030.lean
of formal-conjectures (main, 2026-09-17, at the commit linked) declares
erdos_1030 : ∃ c > (0 : ℝ), ∃ L : ℝ, Tendsto (fun k : ℕ ↦ (SimpleGraph.classicalRamsey (k + 1) k : ℝ) / (SimpleGraph.classicalRamsey k k : ℝ)) atTop (nhds L) ∧ L > 1 + c under category research open, with proof
sorry; a thread comment of 23 March 2026 says the statement was being
contributed to the collection through a pull request at that time. The community
database records the problem open (last update 13 September 2025), the statement
formalized since 9 September 2026, and no formal proof. Nothing was built.
Current assessment
The question (site formulation of 2026-09-17). The statement above; OPEN, with the site's note that no finite computation can settle it; last edited 23 March 2026. The commentary attributes the problem to Erdős and Sós, reports that they could not even decide whether for any , calls the bound trivial, credits Burr, Erdős, Faudree and Schelp [BEFS89] with , and points to Problem 544 for and to Problem 1014 for the general off-diagonal case. The thread: a comment of 23 March 2026 that the phrasing "the Ramsey number" and the undefined limit were raised while formalizing, and the site author's reply the same day that is the usual off-diagonal Ramsey number and the limit is as . The proof-claim tab is empty.
What the source proves. Theorem 1 (p. 115): for , by an explicit construction that duplicates a red of an -good coloring and adjoins further vertices (pp. 116--117); the case is Graver and Yackel's, and the theorem strengthens the trivial . With , and this is for . The site's commentary quotes and calls trivial, where the paper's bounds are and the trivial : is two below and is one below , both site figures being the paper's and evaluated at rather than , a discrepancy in the commentary that does not affect the status. (An observation made here: the printed range fails at for with the usual , and the proof needs ; the use above has .) The Corollary (p. 115): , printed with the range "" [sic], a misprint; two applications of Theorem 1 give it for , and on the diagonal it reads . Theorem 2 (p. 116): for , by a blue join of two good colorings; the printed text has . The remark on p. 117 calls Theorem 1 "far short of what must be true" (p. 117), since by (1) the consecutive difference is exponentially large in on average, and the authors find it "almost certain that this difference has an exponential lower bound as well" (p. 117), where (1) is (p. 115). Theorems 3--5 (pp. 117--118) concern generalized Ramsey numbers of complete graphs with pendant stars or an added vertex and do not bear on the ratio. The paper nowhere states the ratio question.
The 1981 survey. Printed p. 11 of [Er81] states the conjecture as display (7), , attributes it to Burr and Erdős and calls it intractable. It then states display (8), , as a lemma that Erdős, Faudree, Rousseau and Schelp had recently needed and could prove without much difficulty, adding that they could not show that grows faster than any polynomial in ; no proof of (8) is given, and no source cited here contains one. The statement is in tension with the 1989 paper of Burr, Erdős, Faudree and Schelp, three of whose authors are among the four credited with (8): that paper proves only the linear gap , calls it far short of the truth, and does not mention (8). The same page records the expectation with , the limit whose existence item (4) of the same survey offers a prize for; the existence of either limit is unproved.
Why additive gaps do not reach the question. Since by display (1), an additive increment of order changes by , which tends to ; the question needs for a fixed , which no result in hand gives; the superlinear gap (8) of [Er81], were its proof in hand, would change the ratio by as well, since any gap of order is still . Lower bounds for and separately, such as the near-diagonal bounds from the local lemma (Bradač 2026, display (5), p. 3) and Bradač's Theorem 1.5 for , or the bounds on for of [MSX25] as quoted there, do not bound the ratio, since the true values are unknown to within exponential factors; they are recorded as context.
Search scope. None of the routes below found a bound on away from , a proof that the ratio tends to , or a proof claim.
- The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; formal-conjectures at main; the community database, all that day.
- arXiv: the API queries
abs:"consecutive Ramsey numbers"(no records) andabs:"diagonal Ramsey" AND abs:"lower bound"(thirteen records, none on the ratio); the abstract pages of 2507.12926 and 2605.28793. - Publisher records: a bibliographic query for [BEFS89]'s title (no record for the Utilitas Mathematica article).
- The primary sources: [BEFS89] pp. 115--118; [Br26] p. 3.
Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Not held: [MSX25] and Chung--Grinstead 1983 (the paper's references). [Er93] and Graver--Yackel 1968, the paper's other reference, were outside the search; the latter is filed at graver_yackel_1968_graph_theoretic_results_associated_ramsey_theorem.
Remaining gaps. (1) [Er93], the site's source for the problem and for the Erdős--Sós attribution, was outside the search; its displays (10) and (11) are quoted in the reference entry, and the site's "for any " is the survey's printed text (p. 340). The survey states the conjecture without proof and offers no prize for it. The earlier [Er81] attributes the conjecture to Burr and Erdős; the two attributions are recorded and not reconciled. Its display (8), the superlinear gap, is stated as proved and has no proof in any source cited here; whether it was ever published is not determined. (2) The source's theorems are compiled as statements with proof pointers (statements checked; Theorem 2's five-line proof is the one proof followed in full); no proof is rewritten or reviewed. (3) The commentary's and against the paper's and is recorded above and not resolved with the site.
Linked library material
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- erdos_1993_my_favorite_solved_unsolved_problems_graph_theory
- burr_1989_difference_between_consecutive_ramsey_numbers
- burr_1989_difference_between_consecutive_ramsey_numbers / corollary
- burr_1989_difference_between_consecutive_ramsey_numbers / remark_p117
- burr_1989_difference_between_consecutive_ramsey_numbers / theorem_1
- burr_1989_difference_between_consecutive_ramsey_numbers / theorem_2
- erdos_1981_new_problems_results_graph_theory_other