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Claim. Quanyu Tang and Hao Zhang, Average first-passage times for character sums, arXiv:2512.24631 (v1 31 December 2025, v2 18 January 2026; carded as Tang and Zhang 2025), first posted as a PDF on 27 December 2025 in the discussion thread of Problem 981, proves in its Theorem 1.2 that for every ϵ>0\epsilon>0, with pp an odd prime, Sℓ(p)=∑n≤ℓ(n/p)S_\ell(p)=\sum_{n\le\ell}(n/p) and the first-passage time fϵ(p)=min⁡{ℓ≥1:Sℓ(p)<ϵℓ}f_\epsilon(p)=\min\{\ell\ge1:S_\ell(p)<\epsilon\ell\}, there is a constant cϵ∈(0,∞)c_\epsilon\in(0,\infty) with ∑p≤xfϵ(p)∼cϵx/log⁡x\sum_{p\le x}f_\epsilon(p)\sim c_\epsilon x/\log x. The post presents the paper as resolving the formulation then stated on erdosproblems.com, and records that Erdős's original display (80) is the eventual-time problem, which Elliott's 1969 paper resolves, and that the eventual-time asymptotic does not imply the first-passage one.

Submission note. Posted to the erdosproblems.com forum by Quanyu Tang on 27 December 2025:

In joint work with Hao, we wrote a paper resolving the formulation currently stated on this page (the “first-passage time” version), proving that ∑p≤xfε(p)∼cεx/log⁡x\sum_{p\le x} f_\varepsilon(p)\sim c_\varepsilon x/\log x. Since our arXiv submission is not yet publicly announced due to the holiday schedule, I am temporarily posting a preprint PDF (and TeX source) in my GitHub page here. (I will update this comment with the arXiv link as soon as it becomes public; I’m posting this now mainly to help avoid duplicated effort over the next couple of days.)

Along the way we encountered an unexpected twist, so let me briefly explain the story.

  1. Solving the page’s formulation (Problem 1). We first proved the asymptotic for the quantity fε(p)f_\varepsilon(p) as defined on this page. Our approach avoids the potential pitfall highlighted by Terence Tao (18:42 on 01 Oct 2025); unfortunately, I did not see the earlier comment at 18:09, which has since been deleted. At that point we began preparing a write-up.

  2. Erdős’s original formulation is different (Problem 2). While writing the Introduction, we checked Erdős’s original statement in [Er65b, Eq. (80)] and realized it is a genuinely different “eventual-time” problem. Namely, for ε>0\varepsilon>0 and each odd prime pp, let Fε(p)F_\varepsilon(p) be the least integer such that

Sℓ(p)<εℓfor > every ℓ≥Fε(p).S_\ell(p)<\varepsilon \ell \qquad \text{for > every }\ell\ge F_\varepsilon(p).

Erdős asked whether there exists

Cε>0C_\varepsilon>0 such that

∑p≤xFε(p)∼>Cεxlog⁡x.\sum_{p\le x} F_\varepsilon(p)\sim > C_\varepsilon \frac{x}{\log x}.

Thus Problem 2 concerns an eventual-time

threshold, whereas Problem 1 concerns a first-passage threshold.

  1. Literature search: Problem 2 was already solved by Elliott. We then searched the literature to see whether Erdős’s eventual-time formulation (Problem 2) had already been solved. I asked ChatGPT three times to search for relevant references, but none of them turned up anything relevant. I then searched manually on Google Scholar (using the keywords “conjecture character sums”) and found the following paper:

[El69] Elliott, P. D. T. A. "A CONJECTURE OF ERDiiS CONCERNING CHARACTER SUMS." (1969).

This paper is difficult for AI tools to retrieve because it is hosted on ScienceDirect behind a human-verification gate, which likely explains why it did not appear in our earlier AI-assisted searches. After accessing it manually, we confirmed that it indeed resolves Problem 2.

  1. Why our result is still new. Although one clearly has (f_\varepsilon(p)\le F_\varepsilon(p)) for each pp, an asymptotic formula for (\sum_{p\le x}F_\varepsilon(p)) does not by itself imply the corresponding asymptotic for ∑p≤xfε(p)\sum_{p\le x} f_\varepsilon(p). To the best of our knowledge, the first-passage version (Problem 1) was previously open, and our paper establishes the claimed asymptotic.

Why it is rejected. It answers a variant, not the Statement. When the post was made, the erdosproblems.com page defined fϵ(p)f_\epsilon(p) as the first-passage time min⁡{m:Sm(p)<ϵm}\min\{m:S_m(p)<\epsilon m\}; erdosproblems.com corrected the page the same day to Erdős's eventual-time threshold, the least mm with SN(p)<ϵNS_N(p)<\epsilon N for every N≥mN\ge m, which is the Statement of Problem 981. The first-passage time is at most the eventual-time threshold for each pp, but, as the paper itself notes, an asymptotic for the sum of one does not by itself give an asymptotic for the sum of the other, so its mathematics answers the variant and does not settle this problem; the value proved is its answer to that variant.

Standing. Rejected, as answering a variant. The preprint is unrefereed; Terence Tao replied the same day that ChatGPT Pro, through which he had run the paper, raised a fixable issue with the odd-primes convention and no major concern, which is a thread comment, not a review. The erdosproblems.com commentary credits the variant to the paper. This corpus has checked Theorem 1.2's statement clause by clause and not its proof.

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