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Claim. Steve Fan's post of 11 October 2025 in the discussion thread of Problem 269 proves that the sum is irrational when PP is an infinite set of primes. With q1<q2<⋯q_1<q_2<\cdots the powers of the primes in PP and xix_i the lcm of q1,…,qiq_1,\ldots,q_i, it writes the sum as ∑imi/xi\sum_i m_i/x_i, where mim_i counts the ana_n in [qi,qi+1)[q_i,q_{i+1}). It shows mi=o(qi)m_i=o(q_i), by Brun's sieve when ∑p∉P1/p\sum_{p\notin P}1/p diverges and by the prime number theorem with the classical error term when it converges. If the sum were a rational a/ba/b, then for large NN with qN+1∈Pq_{N+1}\in P the integer bxN∑i≥N+1mi/xibx_N\sum_{i\ge N+1}m_i/x_i would be o(1)o(1), which the post takes as the contradiction.

Submission note. Posted to the erdosproblems.com forum by Steve Fan (account Steve_Fan) on 11 October 2025. The post was edited after the curator's reply of the same day; the text below is the post as it read on 2026-10-18:

Here is a proof for the case where P={p1<p2<⋯ }P=\{p_1<p_2<\cdots\} is infinite. Denote the series in consideration by SS. Let {qi}i≥1\{q_i\}_{i\ge1} be the ascending sequence of the powers of primes in PP, and let xi:=[q1,...,qi]x_i:=[q_1,...,q_i] for i≥1i\ge1. For each prime power q=pkq=p^k, define α(q):=p\alpha(q):=p. Then xi+1=α(qi+1)xix_{i+1}=\alpha(q_{i+1})x_i and qi+1≤p1qiq_{i+1}\le p_1q_{i} for all i≥1i\ge1. Observe that

>S=∑i≥1mixi,>> S=\sum_{i\ge1}\frac{m_i}{x_i}, >

where mim_i counts the number of ana_n's in [qi,qi+1)[q_i,q_{i+1}).

It is not hard to see that mi=o(qi)m_i=o(q_i). Indeed, when ∑p∉P1p=∞\sum_{p\not\in P}\frac{1}{p}=\infty, Brun's sieve yields

>mi≪(qi+1−qi)∏p≤qi+1−qip∉P(1−1p).>> m_i\ll(q_{i+1}-q_i)\prod_{\substack{p\le q_{i+1}-q_i\\p\notin P}}\left(1-\frac{1}{p}\right). >

So for sufficiently large ii, either qi+1−qi=o(qi)q_{i+1}-q_i=o(q_i) or the product above is o(1)o(1). In both cases we have mi=o(qi)m_i=o(q_i). When ∑p∉P1p<∞\sum_{p\not\in P}\frac{1}{p}<\infty, the Prime Number Theorem with the classical error term gives

>∑p≤xp∈P1p=log⁡log⁡x+C+O(e−c0log⁡x)>> \sum_{\substack{p\le x\\p\in P}}\frac{1}{p}=\log\log x+C+O\left(e^{-c_0\sqrt{\log x}}\right) >

with some absolute constants CC and c0>0c_0>0, which implies particularly that given any ϵ>0\epsilon>0, every interval (x,(1+ϵ)x](x,(1+\epsilon)x] with xx sufficiently large contains a prime in PP, so that mi≤qi+1−qi≤ϵqim_i\le q_{i+1}-q_i\le\epsilon q_i.

Assume now that S=abS=\frac{a}{b}, where a,b∈Na,b\in\mathbb{N}. Suppose that qN+1∈Pq_{N+1}\in P . Then

>bxN∑i≥N+1mixi=axN−bxN∑i≤Nmixi∈N.>> bx_N\sum_{i\ge N+1}\frac{m_i}{x_i}=ax_N-bx_N\sum_{i\le N}\frac{m_i}{x_i}\in\mathbb{N}. >

Since qi≤p1i−N−1qN+1=p1i−N−1α(qN+1)q_i\le p_1^{i-N-1}q_{N+1}=p_1^{i-N-1}\alpha(q_{N+1}), we have

>bxN∑i≥N+1mixi=o(∑i≥N+1qiα(qN+1)⋯α(qi))=o(∑i≥N+1p1i−N−1α(qN+2)⋯α(qi))>> bx_N\sum_{i\ge N+1}\frac{m_i}{x_i} =o\left(\sum_{i\ge N+1}\frac{q_i}{\alpha(q_{N+1})\cdots \alpha(q_{i})}\right)=o\left(\sum_{i\ge N+1}\frac{p_1^{i-N-1}}{\alpha(q_{N+2})\cdots \alpha(q_{i})}\right) >

for sufficiently large NN. Note that

>∑i≥N+1p1i−N−1α(qN+2)⋯α(qi)≤∑i≥N+1(p1p2)ni=∑k≥0(p1p2)k∑i≥N+1ni=k1,>> \sum_{i\ge N+1}\frac{p_1^{i-N-1}}{\alpha(q_{N+2})\cdots \alpha(q_{i})}\le\sum_{i\ge N+1}\left(\frac{p_1}{p_2}\right)^{n_i}=\sum_{k\ge0}\left(\frac{p_1}{p_2}\right)^{k}\sum_{\substack{i\ge N+1\\n_i=k}}1, >

where ni:=#{j∈[N+2,i] ⁣:α(qj)>p1}n_i:=\#\{j\in[N+2,i]\colon\alpha(q_j)>p_1\}. Since each interval (p1r,p1r+l](p_1^{r},p_1^{r+l}] with l=⌈log⁡p2log⁡p1⌉l=\lceil\frac{\log p_2}{\log p_1}\rceil contains a power of p2p_2, we have

>∑i≥N+1ni=k1≤l+1,>> \sum_{\substack{i\ge N+1\\n_i=k}}1\le l+1, >

so that

>∑k≥0(p1p2)k∑i≥N+1ni=k1≤(l+1)∑k≥0(p1p2)k≪1.>> \sum_{k\ge0}\left(\frac{p_1}{p_2}\right)^{k}\sum_{\substack{i\ge N+1\\n_i=k}}1\le(l+1)\sum_{k\ge0}\left(\frac{p_1}{p_2}\right)^{k}\ll1. >

So

>bxN∑i≥N+1mixi=o(1)>> bx_N\sum_{i\ge N+1}\frac{m_i}{x_i} =o(1) >

for sufficiently large NN, a contradiction.

Why it is rejected. It answers a variant, not the Statement. Problem 269 asks about a finite set of at least two primes. erdosproblems.com records the infinite case apart from the question, as always irrational, and reports that Erdős calls it a simple exercise in [Er88c]. A proof for infinite PP says nothing about any finite PP, so its mathematics answers the variant and does not settle this problem; the value proved is its answer to that variant.

The thread. The same day Thomas Bloom, the erdosproblems.com curator, replied to the post's first version that xn+1≥2xnx_{n+1}\ge2x_n does not hold for all nn, failing for example when PP is the set of all primes, and that the proof could be amended to show the convergence of the final tail series directly. Fan replied that he would fix it, and the post was edited; Bloom's reply now carries a note that it answered the earlier version.

Standing. Rejected, as answering a variant. The erdosproblems.com page attributes the infinite case to Erdős and does not mention the post. Bloom's reply corrected the first version and is not a review of the edited proof, and this corpus has not checked it.

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