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Problem 796
claims/: The 2 claim pages of Problem 796, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.
Statement. Let and let be the largest possible size of such that every has solutions to with .
Is it true that
for some constant ?
Formulation. The site's wording as of 2026-09-18 (page last edited 16 January 2026). A representation is an unordered pair of distinct members with ; squares are not representations. In Erdős's 1964 paper the threshold is the least such that every -set in has some with at least solutions of , so whenever the two ways of counting representations agree; the 1964 page does not say whether is allowed. The site's commentary records Erdős's asymptotic for , the count of integers up to with distinct prime factors; the question is the second-order term for , where the leading term is . The site says the question is only implicit in Erdős's 1969 remark that his second-order bounds for might be sharpened, and that Erdős printed those bounds, and so the question, with the denominator in the second term; the site prints , reading the printed as a typo repeated through the display. Both printed forms are recorded below.
Status. The site's label is OPEN (page last edited 16 January 2026;
proof-claim tab accessed 2026-10-06). What is known: the asymptotic
(Erdős 1964, Theorem 3); Erdős's
1969 statement, without proof, of second-order bounds with the denominator
, and his 1964 remark, without proof, that the second term is
; a 2026 forum construction (Tang) giving
with the
Meissel--Mertens constant, which refutes both printed second-order claims
if correct, and the site maintainer's reading that Erdős's 1964 proof gives
an upper bound with second term ; and two full-proof claims of
15 July 2026 on the site's proof-claim tab, each declaring the use of a
GPT 5.6 model and each with a Lean development, one of which the
formal-conjectures
collection marks as a formal proof
(Gajjala
and Snyder,
both pending). No refereed publication or independent review of either
claim was found in the search whose scope the Current assessment records. The standing
derives from the claim pages: two pending full claims that agree make it
claimed, with proved the answer they assert; nothing is accepted. The
negative finding on acceptance is bounded by that search, not a
certificate of openness.
Source. erdosproblems.com/796, accessed 2026-09-18T05:33Z: the problem page (labeled OPEN, with the site's note that no finite computation can resolve it; last edited 16 January 2026; source key [Er69, p. 80]; commentary citing [Er64d], [Er69b], [Er69] and Problem 425), its four-comment discussion thread (27 October 2025 to 9 January 2026) and its proof-claim tab with two full claims (15 July 2026). Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #796, https://www.erdosproblems.com/796, accessed 2026-09-18.
References.
- [Er64d] Erdős, P., On the multiplicative representation of integers. Israel J. Math. 2 (1964), no. 4, 251--261 (received 17 December 1964); Theorem 3, printed p. 252, and the closing remark, p. 261. Library home: erdos_1964_multiplicative_representation_integers; result pages Theorem 3 and Theorem 1.
- [Er69] Erdős, Paul, Some applications of graph theory to number theory. The Many Facets of Graph Theory (Kalamazoo 1968), Springer (1969), 77--82; equation (9) and display (10), printed p. 80. Library home: erdos_1969_applications_graph_theory_number_theory; result pages equation (9) and inequality (10).
- [Er69b] Erdős, P., Problems and results in chromatic graph theory. Proof Techniques in Graph Theory (Proc. Second Ann Arbor Graph Theory Conf., 1968), Academic Press (1969), 27--35. Library home: erdos_1969_problems_results_chromatic_graph_theory (the card's row for this problem records that the passage the site cites was not located in the paper's nine pages; below).
- [Ta26] Tang, Q., On Erdős Problem 796. Note (PDF and TeX source) in the repository QuanyuTang/erdos-problem-796-note, linked at its commit of 9 January 2026 and linked from the thread; Proposition 2.1 (its section 2). Not a refereed source.
- [Ga26] Gajjala, R., On Erdős's multiplicative representation problem.
Manuscript and Lean development in the
repository rishigajjala/erdos-796-lean,
linked at its commit of 15 July 2026 and linked from the proof-claim tab;
the README,
Erdos796/Statement.leanandAUDIT.mdare cited below. A proof claim, not a refereed source.
Formalization. Statement only. The file
ErdosProblems/796.lean
of formal-conjectures at the commit linked (its main branch on 2026-09-18)
defines repCount A m as the number of
pairs a.1 < a.2 in A with product m, g k n as the largest size of a
subset of Finset.Icc 1 n with every repCount below k, and
normalizedError n = ((g 3 n : ℝ) - n * log (log n) / log n) / (n / log n),
and declares erdos_796 : answer(True) ↔ ∃ c : ℝ, Tendsto normalizedError atTop (𝓝 c)
under category research solved with proof sorry and a formal_proof
attribute naming the file Research/CanonicalTail.lean of an erdos-796
development in
williamjblair/lean-proofs,
linked at the commit the attribute names; its docstring says "The answer is
yes: the rescaled error normalizedError converges." The collection's
category and attribute record one of the July 2026 proof claims, while the
site's label is OPEN; the disagreement is recorded under "Formalization and
the proof claims" below. The community database (as of 2026-09-18) lists the
problem open as of its entry's last update of 31 August 2025, which does not
date any change of state, with the statement formalized since 7 August 2026,
formal_status unformalized and no formal proof; the site's indicator records
a formalized statement. This corpus has built or kernel-checked none of this
Lean.
Current assessment
The question (site formulation). The statement above; OPEN, with the site's note that no finite computation resolves it, last edited 16 January 2026; source key [Er69, p. 80]. The commentary, in summary: Erdős [Er64d] proved that if then , the asymptotic count of the integers up to with distinct prime factors; Erdős discussed the second-order terms in [Er69b], where the site finds this question implicit, in contrast with Problem 425, which he asked explicitly more than once; in [Er69] the question appears with the denominator in the second term, and for Erdős states, as something he could prove, the two-sided bounds ; the site finds this strange, since the upper- and lower-bound techniques of [Er64d] prove the same bounds with in place of , and its best guess is that the squared denominator is a typo repeated through the reported bounds and the question, so that was meant throughout; the site credits the correction to Tang, who independently noted the improved lower bound (with a better constant ) in the comments, and refers the case to Problem 425. The thread, oldest first: a comment of 27 October 2025 (the account TerenceTao) that on p. 80 of [Er69] the second part of the question concerns only and that the formulation is implicit, Erdős remarking only that it is unclear whether the bound he could prove can be sharpened; the maintainer's reply of the same day that in the second part was a typo for and that Erdős never posed this explicitly as a problem; a comment of 9 January 2026 (the account Quanyu Tang) linking a note proving with the Meissel--Mertens constant, which excludes every asymptotic with in the second term, posing the revised question whether , and reporting that [Er64d] yields an upper bound with second term ; and the maintainer's reply of the same day that the construction is essentially Erdős's own from [Er64d] (products of two primes with , ), whose count is classically , so that Erdős's own construction had already refuted the form, and, after an edit, that Erdős's upper-bound proof in fact gives a second term , so that the smaller term claimed on the paper's last page is wrong and describes only the error after primes and near-primes are pruned from . The proof-claim tab holds two full claims of 15 July 2026 (below).
The sources. [Er64d], Theorem 3 (p. 252), for : , where is the least size forcing some with ; with (the site's ) and Erdős's (the site's ): , the site's leading term. The closing remark (p. 261) says that for "Theorem 3 could be sharpened to" a second term "where is a suitable positive constant. But at present I can not prove for a result as sharp as (4) and (5)." [Er69], p. 80: equation (9), the same asymptotic for , , equal to , and display (10), the two-sided bound , introduced by "For I cannot at present get a result which is as sharp as (4). I just want to state without proof a special result in this direction" and followed by "It is not clear whether (10) can be sharpened." The result pages transcribe the displays as printed. The denominators are as printed, as the site says. [Er69b] does not carry the discussion of second-order terms that the site places there: its nine pages (printed pp. 27--35) say nothing on sequences of integers, products or representations, and its number-theoretic content is Turán's hypergraph problem, the extremal problems and clique sizes, with nothing on or . The second-order discussion the site describes is display (10) of [Er69]; the card's row for this problem records the [Er69b] key as unlocated.
What is known, and the printed tension. The asymptotic rests on Theorem 3 of [Er64d] (claims checked; the proof on pp. 255--261 unverified). No published source proves a second-order asymptotic or even a two-sided second-order bound: Erdős's display (10) is "without proof", and his p. 261 remark is a claim of what "could be" proved. The two printed claims are consistent with each other: display (10) of 1969, a second term between and , is the sharper form of the 1964 remark and implies it with . Both are refuted, if Tang's Proposition 2.1 is right, by , since the products of two primes alone already contribute a second term of order ; the site's page adopts this reading and prints in the question. This page records the printed forms and the site's reading as the site's; the constant , if it exists, is bounded below by along Tang's construction (unverified) and the upper side rests on the maintainer's reading of Erdős's proof, also unverified. An observation of this page: the question as printed by the site asks whether converges, which is exactly the formal-conjectures statement; a two-sided bound with distinct constants would leave the question open.
Formalization and the proof claims. The proof-claim tab lists two
full claims of 15 July 2026, neither examined by the site, which labels
the problem OPEN (page last edited 16 January 2026); each has a claim page,
and the problem's standing is claimed through them:
- The account rishikeshgajjala (the site names Rishikesh Gajjala),
declaring the use of GPT 5.6 Sol
(claim page):
a constant between and exists, by Erdős's 1964 techniques
carried one order deeper through an optimization over families of
cofactors, starting from Tang's note; a paper PDF and the repository
rishigajjala/erdos-796-lean([Ga26], at its commit of 15 July 2026). Its README states the main formal theorem as , with the Meissel--Mertens constant and "the variational constant defined by the compatible-cofactor problem", and the bounds , , ;Erdos796/Statement.leanencodes the problem as∃ c : ℝ, HasSecondOrderConstant c, convergence of((g3 n : ℝ) - leadingTerm n) / secondOrderScale ntoc;AUDIT.mdrecords a release audit of seven theorems with#print axiomsreportingpropext,Classical.choice,Quot.sound, a build with--trust=0, the rejection ofsorry, custom axioms andnative_decide, and the dependency on an external Lean project on the prime number theorem. The development is unbuilt in this corpus and the manuscript's proof unverified. - The account coffeewithcolin (the site names Colin Snyder), declaring the
use of GPT 5.6 in a custom harness
(claim page):
the constant exists and is the Mertens constant added to the limit of
an explicit variational sequence, proved in Lean 4 over Mathlib with the
three standard axioms reported by the kernel; the solution page (as of
2026-10-07) heads its report "accepted 2026-07-14", names no human
author, and states the theorem, the two gate lemmas and the axiom audit;
nothing on this page rests on the contents of the downloadable archive.
The formal-conjectures file's
formal_proofattribute names a re-hosted build of this development inwilliamjblair/lean-proofsat the commit the claim page links (committer date 2026-07-30). The basis for the match: that repository'sproofs.yamlat the same commit lists problem 796 with the source Star Fleet Math and the author Colin Snyder, the filestarfleet/erdos-796/Research/CanonicalTail.lean, the theoremErdos796.erdos796_statement, and the note that the PrimeNumberTheoremAnd project was substituted for the vendored copy omitted from the Star Fleet bundle; the formal-conjectures commit that added the attribute (7 August 2026) is titled as adding Star Fleet Math formal-proof links. In the development,Research/Basic.leandefinesStatement : Prop := ∃ c : ℝ, Filter.Tendsto normalizedError Filter.atTop (nhds c)("A faithful formalization of the affirmative answer to Erdős Problem 796"), andResearch/CanonicalTail.leanprovestheorem erdos796_statement : Statement := remainderGates_imply_statement smoothRemainderGate_proved extractedTailGate_proved;Audit.leanis#print axioms Erdos796.erdos796_statement. None of the development's 44 Lean files declares anaxiomor containssorry; ten proofs in five modules usenative_decide; the development imports Mathlib and an external Lean project on the prime number theorem. Whether thenative_decideproofs enter the final theorem's dependency cone (the claim text says they do not) is unverified, since this corpus has not built the development.
No comparison of the two claims' constants, and the Mertens
constant plus the limit of a variational sequence, is recorded. The
formal-conjectures collection's research solved category for this problem,
with its formal_proof attribute, disagrees with the site's OPEN label; this
page follows the site and records the disagreement. Tang's note ([Ta26]) states
Proposition 2.1 as stated above and, in its concluding remarks, records the p.
261 remark of [Er64d] and conjectures .
Search scope (2026-09-18 UTC). None of the routes below found a refereed publication or an independent review of either claim, a published second-order asymptotic, or the passage the site attributes to [Er69b].
- The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab from that
access; formal-conjectures
796.leanat the commit linked above; the community database as of 2026-09-18. - The three repositories at the commits linked above: Tang's note (TeX
source), Gajjala's README,
Statement.leanandAUDIT.md, and the 44 files of thewilliamjblair/lean-proofsdevelopment. - arXiv: the API query
abs:"multiplicative representation" OR abs:"multiplicative representations"sorted by date (25 records, none on this problem; the phrase is common in other fields, so this zero is weak). - The primary sources: [Er64d] pp. 251--252 and 261; [Er69] p. 80; [Er69b] pp. 33--35 in full and pp. 27--35 for the topic.
Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Unverified: the manuscripts of the two proof claims; the proof of [Er64d]'s Theorem 3.
Remaining gaps. (1) No refereed source proves or refutes a second-order asymptotic for ; the two July 2026 proof claims with Lean developments are pending claims with their own pages, reviewed by no one outside their authors, and the formal-conjectures collection's category disagrees with the site's label. (2) Erdős's two printed second-order claims (1964, 1969), the second a sharpening of the first, are both contradicted by Tang's construction if it is right; the site's reading of the 1969 denominators as a typo is recorded as the site's. (3) The passage the site attributes to [Er69b] was not found in the paper; that card's row for this problem records this. (4) The convention question (whether Erdős's counts ) is not settled by [Er64d] or [Er69] and does not affect the leading term.
Linked library material
These entries are derived from explicit links on library pages. They are navigation only and do not by themselves record mathematical progress.
- erdos_1969_problems_results_chromatic_graph_theory
- erdos_1964_multiplicative_representation_integers
- erdos_1964_multiplicative_representation_integers / theorem_1
- erdos_1964_multiplicative_representation_integers / theorem_3
- erdos_1969_applications_graph_theory_number_theory
- erdos_1969_applications_graph_theory_number_theory / equation_9
- erdos_1969_applications_graph_theory_number_theory / inequality_10