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Problem 796

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Statement. Let k≥2k\geq 2 and let gk(n)g_k(n) be the largest possible size of A⊆{1,…,n}A\subseteq \{1,\ldots,n\} such that every mm has <k<k solutions to m=a1a2m=a_1a_2 with a1<a2∈Aa_1<a_2\in A.

Is it true that

g3(n)=log⁡log⁡nlog⁡nn+(c+o(1))nlog⁡ng_3(n)=\frac{\log\log n}{\log n}n+(c+o(1))\frac{n}{\log n}

for some constant cc?

Formulation. The site's wording as of 2026-09-18 (page last edited 16 January 2026). A representation is an unordered pair a1<a2a_1<a_2 of distinct members with a1a2=ma_1a_2=m; squares a2a^2 are not representations. In Erdős's 1964 paper the threshold ul(n)u_l(n) is the least tt such that every tt-set in [1,n][1,n] has some mm with at least ll solutions of m=bibjm=b_ib_j, so gk(n)=uk(n)−1g_k(n)=u_k(n)-1 whenever the two ways of counting representations agree; the 1964 page does not say whether i=ji=j is allowed. The site's commentary records Erdős's asymptotic gk(n)∼(log⁡log⁡n)r−1n/((r−1)!log⁡n)g_k(n)\sim(\log\log n)^{r-1}n/((r-1)!\log n) for 2r−1<k≤2r2^{r-1}<k\le2^r, the count of integers up to nn with rr distinct prime factors; the question is the second-order term for k=3k=3, where the leading term is nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡nn\log\log n/\log n. The site says the question is only implicit in Erdős's 1969 remark that his second-order bounds for u3(n)u_3(n) might be sharpened, and that Erdős printed those bounds, and so the question, with the denominator (log⁡n)2(\log n)^2 in the second term; the site prints log⁡n\log n, reading the printed (log⁡n)2(\log n)^2 as a typo repeated through the display. Both printed forms are recorded below.

Status. The site's label is OPEN (page last edited 16 January 2026; proof-claim tab accessed 2026-10-06). What is known: the asymptotic g3(n)=(1+o(1))nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡ng_3(n)=(1+o(1))n\log\log n/\log n (Erdős 1964, Theorem 3); Erdős's 1969 statement, without proof, of second-order bounds with the denominator (log⁡n)2(\log n)^2, and his 1964 remark, without proof, that the second term is O(n/(log⁡n)1+c)O(n/(\log n)^{1+c}); a 2026 forum construction (Tang) giving g3(n)≥nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+(M+1+o(1))n/log⁡ng_3(n)\ge n\log\log n/\log n+(M+1+o(1))n/\log n with MM the Meissel--Mertens constant, which refutes both printed second-order claims if correct, and the site maintainer's reading that Erdős's 1964 proof gives an upper bound with second term O(n/log⁡n)O(n/\log n); and two full-proof claims of 15 July 2026 on the site's proof-claim tab, each declaring the use of a GPT 5.6 model and each with a Lean development, one of which the formal-conjectures collection marks as a formal proof (Gajjala and Snyder, both pending). No refereed publication or independent review of either claim was found in the search whose scope the Current assessment records. The standing derives from the claim pages: two pending full claims that agree make it claimed, with proved the answer they assert; nothing is accepted. The negative finding on acceptance is bounded by that search, not a certificate of openness.

Source. erdosproblems.com/796, accessed 2026-09-18T05:33Z: the problem page (labeled OPEN, with the site's note that no finite computation can resolve it; last edited 16 January 2026; source key [Er69, p. 80]; commentary citing [Er64d], [Er69b], [Er69] and Problem 425), its four-comment discussion thread (27 October 2025 to 9 January 2026) and its proof-claim tab with two full claims (15 July 2026). Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #796, https://www.erdosproblems.com/796, accessed 2026-09-18.

References.

  • [Er64d] Erdős, P., On the multiplicative representation of integers. Israel J. Math. 2 (1964), no. 4, 251--261 (received 17 December 1964); Theorem 3, printed p. 252, and the closing remark, p. 261. Library home: erdos_1964_multiplicative_representation_integers; result pages Theorem 3 and Theorem 1.
  • [Er69] Erdős, Paul, Some applications of graph theory to number theory. The Many Facets of Graph Theory (Kalamazoo 1968), Springer (1969), 77--82; equation (9) and display (10), printed p. 80. Library home: erdos_1969_applications_graph_theory_number_theory; result pages equation (9) and inequality (10).
  • [Er69b] Erdős, P., Problems and results in chromatic graph theory. Proof Techniques in Graph Theory (Proc. Second Ann Arbor Graph Theory Conf., 1968), Academic Press (1969), 27--35. Library home: erdos_1969_problems_results_chromatic_graph_theory (the card's row for this problem records that the passage the site cites was not located in the paper's nine pages; below).
  • [Ta26] Tang, Q., On Erdős Problem 796. Note (PDF and TeX source) in the repository QuanyuTang/erdos-problem-796-note, linked at its commit of 9 January 2026 and linked from the thread; Proposition 2.1 (its section 2). Not a refereed source.
  • [Ga26] Gajjala, R., On Erdős's multiplicative representation problem. Manuscript and Lean development in the repository rishigajjala/erdos-796-lean, linked at its commit of 15 July 2026 and linked from the proof-claim tab; the README, Erdos796/Statement.lean and AUDIT.md are cited below. A proof claim, not a refereed source.

Formalization. Statement only. The file ErdosProblems/796.lean of formal-conjectures at the commit linked (its main branch on 2026-09-18) defines repCount A m as the number of pairs a.1 < a.2 in A with product m, g k n as the largest size of a subset of Finset.Icc 1 n with every repCount below k, and normalizedError n = ((g 3 n : ℝ) - n * log (log n) / log n) / (n / log n), and declares erdos_796 : answer(True) ↔ ∃ c : ℝ, Tendsto normalizedError atTop (𝓝 c) under category research solved with proof sorry and a formal_proof attribute naming the file Research/CanonicalTail.lean of an erdos-796 development in williamjblair/lean-proofs, linked at the commit the attribute names; its docstring says "The answer is yes: the rescaled error normalizedError converges." The collection's category and attribute record one of the July 2026 proof claims, while the site's label is OPEN; the disagreement is recorded under "Formalization and the proof claims" below. The community database (as of 2026-09-18) lists the problem open as of its entry's last update of 31 August 2025, which does not date any change of state, with the statement formalized since 7 August 2026, formal_status unformalized and no formal proof; the site's indicator records a formalized statement. This corpus has built or kernel-checked none of this Lean.

Current assessment

The question (site formulation). The statement above; OPEN, with the site's note that no finite computation resolves it, last edited 16 January 2026; source key [Er69, p. 80]. The commentary, in summary: Erdős [Er64d] proved that if 2r−1<k≤2r2^{r-1}<k\le2^r then gk(n)∼(log⁡log⁡n)r−1n/((r−1)!log⁡n)g_k(n)\sim(\log\log n)^{r-1}n/((r-1)!\log n), the asymptotic count of the integers up to nn with rr distinct prime factors; Erdős discussed the second-order terms in [Er69b], where the site finds this question implicit, in contrast with Problem 425, which he asked explicitly more than once; in [Er69] the question appears with the denominator (log⁡n)2(\log n)^2 in the second term, and for k=3k=3 Erdős states, as something he could prove, the two-sided bounds nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+c1n/(log⁡n)2≤g3(n)≤nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+c2n/(log⁡n)2n\log\log n/\log n+c_1n/(\log n)^2\le g_3(n)\le n\log\log n/\log n+c_2n/(\log n)^2; the site finds this strange, since the upper- and lower-bound techniques of [Er64d] prove the same bounds with log⁡n\log n in place of (log⁡n)2(\log n)^2, and its best guess is that the squared denominator is a typo repeated through the reported bounds and the question, so that log⁡n\log n was meant throughout; the site credits the correction to Tang, who independently noted the improved lower bound (with a better constant c1c_1) in the comments, and refers the case k=2k=2 to Problem 425. The thread, oldest first: a comment of 27 October 2025 (the account TerenceTao) that on p. 80 of [Er69] the second part of the question concerns only k=3k=3 and that the formulation is implicit, Erdős remarking only that it is unclear whether the bound he could prove can be sharpened; the maintainer's reply of the same day that gkg_k in the second part was a typo for g3g_3 and that Erdős never posed this explicitly as a problem; a comment of 9 January 2026 (the account Quanyu Tang) linking a note proving g3(n)≥nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+(M+1+o(1))n/log⁡ng_3(n)\ge n\log\log n/\log n+(M+1+o(1))n/\log n with MM the Meissel--Mertens constant, which excludes every asymptotic with (log⁡n)2(\log n)^2 in the second term, posing the revised question whether g3(n)≤nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+cn/log⁡ng_3(n)\le n\log\log n/\log n+cn/\log n, and reporting that [Er64d] yields an upper bound with second term O(n/(log⁡n)1+δ)O(n/(\log n)^{1+\delta}); and the maintainer's reply of the same day that the construction is essentially Erdős's own from [Er64d] (products of two primes p<qp<q with n/log⁡n<pq<nn/\log n<pq<n, (log⁡n)2<p<q1/4(\log n)^2<p<q^{1/4}), whose count is classically nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+(M+o(1))n/log⁡nn\log\log n/\log n+(M+o(1))n/\log n, so that Erdős's own construction had already refuted the (log⁡n)2(\log n)^2 form, and, after an edit, that Erdős's upper-bound proof in fact gives a second term O(n/log⁡n)O(n/\log n), so that the smaller term claimed on the paper's last page is wrong and describes only the error after primes and near-primes are pruned from AA. The proof-claim tab holds two full claims of 15 July 2026 (below).

The sources. [Er64d], Theorem 3 (p. 252), for 2k−1<l≤2k2^{k-1}<l\le2^k: ul(n)=(1+o(1)) n(log⁡log⁡n)k−1/((k−1)!log⁡n)u_l(n)=(1+o(1))\,n(\log\log n)^{k-1}/((k-1)!\log n), where ul(n)u_l(n) is the least size forcing some mm with g(m)≥lg(m)\ge l; with l=3l=3 (the site's kk) and Erdős's k=2k=2 (the site's rr): u3(n)=(1+o(1))nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡nu_3(n)=(1+o(1))n\log\log n/\log n, the site's leading term. The closing remark (p. 261) says that for 2k−1<l≤2k2^{k-1}<l\le2^k "Theorem 3 could be sharpened to" a second term O(n/(log⁡n)1+c)O(n/(\log n)^{1+c}) "where c>0c>0 is a suitable positive constant. But at present I can not prove for l>2l>2 a result as sharp as (4) and (5)." [Er69], p. 80: equation (9), the same asymptotic for up(n)u_p(n), 2r−1<p≤2r2^{r-1}<p\le2^r, equal to (1+o(1))Πr(n)(1+o(1))\Pi_r(n), and display (10), the two-sided bound nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+c9 n/(log⁡n)2<u3(n)<nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+c10 n/(log⁡n)2n\log\log n/\log n+c_9\,n/(\log n)^2<u_3(n)<n\log\log n/\log n+c_{10}\,n/(\log n)^2, introduced by "For p>2p>2 I cannot at present get a result which is as sharp as (4). I just want to state without proof a special result in this direction" and followed by "It is not clear whether (10) can be sharpened." The result pages transcribe the displays as printed. The denominators (log⁡n)2(\log n)^2 are as printed, as the site says. [Er69b] does not carry the discussion of second-order terms that the site places there: its nine pages (printed pp. 27--35) say nothing on sequences of integers, products or representations, and its number-theoretic content is Turán's hypergraph problem, the n3/2n^{3/2} extremal problems and clique sizes, with nothing on gk(n)g_k(n) or ul(n)u_l(n). The second-order discussion the site describes is display (10) of [Er69]; the card's row for this problem records the [Er69b] key as unlocated.

What is known, and the printed tension. The asymptotic g3(n)=(1+o(1))nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡ng_3(n)=(1+o(1))n\log\log n/\log n rests on Theorem 3 of [Er64d] (claims checked; the proof on pp. 255--261 unverified). No published source proves a second-order asymptotic or even a two-sided second-order bound: Erdős's display (10) is "without proof", and his p. 261 remark is a claim of what "could be" proved. The two printed claims are consistent with each other: display (10) of 1969, a second term between c9n/(log⁡n)2c_9n/(\log n)^2 and c10n/(log⁡n)2c_{10}n/(\log n)^2, is the sharper form of the 1964 remark and implies it with c=1c=1. Both are refuted, if Tang's Proposition 2.1 is right, by g3(n)≥nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+(M+1+o(1))n/log⁡ng_3(n)\ge n\log\log n/\log n+(M+1+o(1))n/\log n, since the products of two primes alone already contribute a second term of order n/log⁡nn/\log n; the site's page adopts this reading and prints log⁡n\log n in the question. This page records the printed forms and the site's reading as the site's; the constant cc, if it exists, is bounded below by M+1M+1 along Tang's construction (unverified) and the upper side rests on the maintainer's reading of Erdős's proof, also unverified. An observation of this page: the question as printed by the site asks whether (g3(n)−nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n)/(n/log⁡n)(g_3(n)-n\log\log n/\log n)/(n/\log n) converges, which is exactly the formal-conjectures statement; a two-sided bound with distinct constants would leave the question open.

Formalization and the proof claims. The proof-claim tab lists two full claims of 15 July 2026, neither examined by the site, which labels the problem OPEN (page last edited 16 January 2026); each has a claim page, and the problem's standing is claimed through them:

  • The account rishikeshgajjala (the site names Rishikesh Gajjala), declaring the use of GPT 5.6 Sol (claim page): a constant cc between 11 and 1515 exists, by Erdős's 1964 techniques carried one order deeper through an optimization over families of cofactors, starting from Tang's note; a paper PDF and the repository rishigajjala/erdos-796-lean ([Ga26], at its commit of 15 July 2026). Its README states the main formal theorem as g3(n)=nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+(1+M+Γ+o(1)) n/log⁡ng_3(n)=n\log\log n/\log n+(1+M+\Gamma+o(1))\,n/\log n, with MM the Meissel--Mertens constant and Γ\Gamma "the variational constant defined by the compatible-cofactor problem", and the bounds 4/15≤Γ<134/15\le\Gamma<13, M<933/1000M<933/1000, 1+M+Γ<151+M+\Gamma<15; Erdos796/Statement.lean encodes the problem as ∃ c : ℝ, HasSecondOrderConstant c, convergence of ((g3 n : ℝ) - leadingTerm n) / secondOrderScale n to c; AUDIT.md records a release audit of seven theorems with #print axioms reporting propext, Classical.choice, Quot.sound, a build with --trust=0, the rejection of sorry, custom axioms and native_decide, and the dependency on an external Lean project on the prime number theorem. The development is unbuilt in this corpus and the manuscript's proof unverified.
  • The account coffeewithcolin (the site names Colin Snyder), declaring the use of GPT 5.6 in a custom harness (claim page): the constant cc exists and is the Mertens constant added to the limit of an explicit variational sequence, proved in Lean 4 over Mathlib with the three standard axioms reported by the kernel; the solution page (as of 2026-10-07) heads its report "accepted 2026-07-14", names no human author, and states the theorem, the two gate lemmas and the axiom audit; nothing on this page rests on the contents of the downloadable archive. The formal-conjectures file's formal_proof attribute names a re-hosted build of this development in williamjblair/lean-proofs at the commit the claim page links (committer date 2026-07-30). The basis for the match: that repository's proofs.yaml at the same commit lists problem 796 with the source Star Fleet Math and the author Colin Snyder, the file starfleet/erdos-796/Research/CanonicalTail.lean, the theorem Erdos796.erdos796_statement, and the note that the PrimeNumberTheoremAnd project was substituted for the vendored copy omitted from the Star Fleet bundle; the formal-conjectures commit that added the attribute (7 August 2026) is titled as adding Star Fleet Math formal-proof links. In the development, Research/Basic.lean defines Statement : Prop := ∃ c : ℝ, Filter.Tendsto normalizedError Filter.atTop (nhds c) ("A faithful formalization of the affirmative answer to Erdős Problem 796"), and Research/CanonicalTail.lean proves theorem erdos796_statement : Statement := remainderGates_imply_statement smoothRemainderGate_proved extractedTailGate_proved; Audit.lean is #print axioms Erdos796.erdos796_statement. None of the development's 44 Lean files declares an axiom or contains sorry; ten proofs in five modules use native_decide; the development imports Mathlib and an external Lean project on the prime number theorem. Whether the native_decide proofs enter the final theorem's dependency cone (the claim text says they do not) is unverified, since this corpus has not built the development.

No comparison of the two claims' constants, 1+M+Γ1+M+\Gamma and the Mertens constant plus the limit of a variational sequence, is recorded. The formal-conjectures collection's research solved category for this problem, with its formal_proof attribute, disagrees with the site's OPEN label; this page follows the site and records the disagreement. Tang's note ([Ta26]) states Proposition 2.1 as stated above and, in its concluding remarks, records the p. 261 remark of [Er64d] and conjectures g3(n)≤nlog⁡log⁡n/log⁡n+cn/log⁡ng_3(n)\le n\log\log n/\log n+cn/\log n.

Search scope (2026-09-18 UTC). None of the routes below found a refereed publication or an independent review of either claim, a published second-order asymptotic, or the passage the site attributes to [Er69b].

  • The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab from that access; formal-conjectures 796.lean at the commit linked above; the community database as of 2026-09-18.
  • The three repositories at the commits linked above: Tang's note (TeX source), Gajjala's README, Statement.lean and AUDIT.md, and the 44 files of the williamjblair/lean-proofs development.
  • arXiv: the API query abs:"multiplicative representation" OR abs:"multiplicative representations" sorted by date (25 records, none on this problem; the phrase is common in other fields, so this zero is weak).
  • The primary sources: [Er64d] pp. 251--252 and 261; [Er69] p. 80; [Er69b] pp. 33--35 in full and pp. 27--35 for the topic.

Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Unverified: the manuscripts of the two proof claims; the proof of [Er64d]'s Theorem 3.

Remaining gaps. (1) No refereed source proves or refutes a second-order asymptotic for g3(n)g_3(n); the two July 2026 proof claims with Lean developments are pending claims with their own pages, reviewed by no one outside their authors, and the formal-conjectures collection's category disagrees with the site's label. (2) Erdős's two printed second-order claims (1964, 1969), the second a sharpening of the first, are both contradicted by Tang's construction if it is right; the site's reading of the 1969 denominators as a typo is recorded as the site's. (3) The passage the site attributes to [Er69b] was not found in the paper; that card's row for this problem records this. (4) The convention question (whether Erdős's g(m)g(m) counts i=ji=j) is not settled by [Er64d] or [Er69] and does not affect the leading term.

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