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Problem 424

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claims/: The 1 claim page of Problem 424, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.


Statement. Let a1=2a_1=2 and a2=3a_2=3 and continue the sequence by appending to a1,…,ana_1,\ldots,a_n all possible values of aiaj−1a_ia_j-1 with i≠ji\neq j. Is it true that the set of integers which eventually appear has positive density?

Statement (precise). Let a1=2a_1=2 and a2=3a_2=3 and continue the sequence by appending to a1,…,ana_1,\ldots,a_n all possible values of aiaj−1a_ia_j-1 with i≠ji\neq j. Is it true that the set of integers which eventually appear has positive lower density?

Notes. The site's wording does not say which density it asks for: "positive density" can ask that the set of integers that appear have an asymptotic density and that it be positive, or only that its lower density be positive, and the two readings differ for a set whose density need not exist. The change replaces "positive density" by "positive lower density"; nothing else changes. Erdős printed the question without a qualifier: [Er77c], p. 71 (library card: erdos_1977_problems_results_combinatorial_number_theory_iii), reports Hofstadter's problem and asks "Does this sequence have positive density?", while the preceding page (p. 70) asks of another sequence whether its "density (lower density)" is 00 and expects different answers for the two, so Erdős's text distinguishes the densities where Erdős wanted to and fixes no reading here. Erdős and Graham's 1980 wording ([ErGr80], p. 84, as the site reports it) and Guy's section E31 ask instead whether almost all integers appear; that is false, since the residues 00 and 22 modulo 33 are closed under (a,b)↦ab−1(a,b)\mapsto ab-1 (an observation the site credits to Steinerberger), and the site treats that wording as a misstatement of the [Er77c] question. The reading is the site's curator's. The site's commentary says: "As with many of Erdős' questions, by 'positive density' he most likely meant 'positive lower density' - in other words, does there exist c>0c>0 such that for all large xx the number of values of aia_i in [1,x][1,x] is at least cxcx?" The evidence Thomas Bloom gives is Erdős's general usage; in the thread of Problem 1201 (1 May 2026) Bloom wrote that reading a density bound as a lower-density bound "is generally how Erdős used these terms", that Erdős was "generally clear" when asking whether a density exists, and that the curator had tried to update all the site's problem descriptions to reflect this. The formal-conjectures statement follows the site: its erdos_424 asks for positive lower density and its variant exact_density for a positive natural density. Under the precise Statement the answer is yes: Samuel Korsky's proof, recorded on its claim page, gives a c>0c>0 with at least cxcx members in [1,x][1,x] for all large xx, and the Lean formalization of that statement by Codex and Boris Alexeev was built and audited in this corpus. Under the natural-density reading the question is open: no source shows that the density exists, and formal-conjectures tags exact_density as open.

Formulation. A set of positive integers has positive lower density if there is a c>0c>0 such that, for all large xx, at least cxcx integers in [1,x][1,x] belong to it; it has natural density dd if the proportion of integers in [1,x][1,x] that belong to it tends to dd. A positive natural density implies positive lower density, not conversely. The site's source is Erdős's 1977 report of Hofstadter's problem ([Er77c], p. 71; library card: erdos_1977_problems_results_combinatorial_number_theory_iii), which asks only "Does this sequence have positive density?"; the same section (p. 70) asks of another sequence whether its density or its lower density is 00, and is unsure of the answer for the density while expecting the lower density to be 00. The precise Statement takes the lower-density reading, following the site's commentary (Notes), and the formal-conjectures statement (424.lean) follows the site: its main theorem asks for positive lower density. Samuel Korsky's proof, recorded on its claim page, answers the precise Statement yes.

Variant (natural density): does the set of integers that appear have a natural density, and is that density positive? This is open. No source here shows that the density exists, and the formal-conjectures file records the question as its variant exact_density, tagged research open.

Erdős and Graham's 1980 wording, as the site reports it, and Guy's (Unsolved Problems in Number Theory, third edition, section E31, item (c), pp. 353-355; library card: guy_2004_unsolved_problems_number_theory) ask instead whether almost all integers appear. That is false: the residues 00 and 22 modulo 33 are closed under (a,b)↦ab−1(a,b)\mapsto ab-1, so no integer congruent to 11 modulo 33 ever appears and the set has upper density at most 2/32/3, an observation the site credits to Steinerberger.

Status. The site labels the problem OPEN (page last edited 31 March 2026; proof-claims thread accessed 2026-10-06). A proof claim by Samuel Korsky, posted as a full claim to the site's proof-claims tab on 20 July 2026 after a partial claim of 18 July 2026 for a variant, claims a proof of positive lower density, which is the precise Statement. It was written with GPT 5.6-Pro, is on arXiv (August 2026), and was formalized in Lean 4 by Codex, with Boris Alexeev as formal co-author (the file in plby/lean-proofs, built and audited here on 2026-10-07). The formal-conjectures statement of the lower-density reading is tagged solved. The site has not accepted the claim: its proof-claims tab says that a claim's appearing there does not mean that anyone associated with the site has examined any part of the proof, and the site's curator commented in the thread only on the write-up's style. No refereed version exists. The claim page Korsky's proof records it as an accepted full claim on formalized evidence, so the precise Statement is proved and the problem's derived standing is settled. That standing departs from the site's label OPEN, which predates the claims; the acceptance rests on the kernel-checked formalization, not on the site.

Source. erdosproblems.com/424, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #424, https://www.erdosproblems.com/424.

References.

  • [Er77c] Erdős, Paul, Problems and results on combinatorial number theory. III. Number theory day (Proc. Conf., Rockefeller Univ., New York, 1976) (1977), 43-72.
  • [ErGr80] Erdős, P. and Graham, R., Old and new problems and results in combinatorial number theory. Monographies de L'Enseignement Mathematique (1980).

Formalization. Statement in formal-conjectures. A Lean proof of positive lower density, in Boris Alexeev's lean-proofs repository at a pinned commit, was built here and its statement audited against the precise Statement; the claim page Korsky's proof records the build.

Current assessment

The precise Statement asks for positive lower density, the reading of the site's curator (Notes). It is settled yes by Korsky's claim, accepted on formalized evidence (a Lean build, axiom audit and comparator match in this corpus) and not independently reviewed or refereed; the notes under Known Results record it. The natural-density variant (Formulation) has no source and stays open. The site's label OPEN predates the claims, and the standing here departs from it (Status). The notes record the site's proof-claims thread as of 2026-10-06 and the community database as of 2026-10-05; this page records no literature search beyond those sources.

Known Results

Accepted on formalized evidence (full): Samuel Korsky's proof that the generated set has positive lower density, posted to the site's proof-claims tab on 20 July 2026 and on arXiv as 2608.07910 (8 August 2026), is recorded on its claim page. Korsky's partial claim of 18 July 2026 treats the variant sequence in which the two factors may coincide; it settles no part of the question as stated, which requires distinct factors, so it has no page of its own and is recorded, with its links, on the same claim page. In the thread, Boris Alexeev reported a Lean 4 formalization of the proof by Codex, with Alexeev as formal co-author (the file in plby/lean-proofs), and confirmed its statement, and on 21 September 2026 formal-conjectures tagged its lower-density statement research solved with that file linked as the formal proof, while its natural-density variant stays research open. The site's label is OPEN and the community database records the problem as open; no refereed version or site acceptance exists. The Lean file was built here at a commit of 15 September 2026 with only the standard axioms propext, Classical.choice and Quot.sound, its erdos_424 matches the repository's comparator challenge, and it states positive lower density. The claim is therefore accepted on formalized evidence with scope full: it proves the precise Statement, and the natural-density variant stays open.

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