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Problem 918

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claims/: The 3 claim pages of Problem 918, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.


Statement. Is there a graph with ℵ2\aleph_2 vertices and chromatic number ℵ2\aleph_2 such that every subgraph on ℵ1\aleph_1 vertices has chromatic number ≤ℵ0\leq\aleph_0?

Is there a graph with ℵω+1\aleph_{\omega+1} vertices and chromatic number ℵ1\aleph_1 such that every subgraph on ℵω\aleph_\omega vertices has chromatic number ≤ℵ0\leq\aleph_0?

Status. Open. The first question (the part q1) is independent of ZFC + GCH, relative to a huge cardinal: Baumgartner 1984 settles its not disprovable side and Foreman and Laver 1988 its not provable side. The second question (the part q2) is open: Rinot 2015 settles its not disprovable side, and one side alone leaves the question open. The site labels the problem OPEN.

Source. erdosproblems.com/918, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #918, https://www.erdosproblems.com/918.

References.

  • [Er69b] Erdős, P., Problems and results in chromatic graph theory. Proof Techniques in Graph Theory (Proc. Second Ann Arbor Graph Theory Conf., Ann Arbor, Mich., 1968) (1969), 27-35.
  • [ErHa68b] Erdős, P. and Hajnal, A., On chromatic number of infinite graphs. (1968), 83-98.

Formalization. Statement in formal-conjectures.

Current assessment

Question. Both questions ask for incompactness of the chromatic number: a graph whose chromatic number is uncountable although every subgraph on fewer vertices is countably chromatic. The site poses them as Erdős and Hajnal do [ErHa68b], with subgraphs of chromatic number ≤ℵ0\le\aleph_0. Erdős's 1969 survey [Er69b] asks instead for subgraphs of chromatic number =ℵ0=\aleph_0; the site's commentary notes that, read for arbitrary rather than induced subgraphs, that version is trivially impossible, since an edgeless subgraph has chromatic number 11.

First question. It is independent of ZFC + GCH, relative to a huge cardinal. Baumgartner 1984 gives, relative to ZF alone, a model of ZFC + GCH with a graph of the kind asked for, so the question is not disprovable. Foreman and Laver 1988 give, from a huge cardinal, a model of ZFC + GCH in which every graph of size and chromatic number ℵ2\aleph_2 has a subgraph of size and chromatic number ℵ1\aleph_1, so no such graph exists there. Two further consistent positive answers have no claim page of their own, since they repeat Baumgartner's conclusion under other hypotheses: Komjáth (Consistency results on infinite graphs, Israel J. Math. 61 (1988), 285--294) obtains the graph together with 2ℵ0=ℵ32^{\aleph_0}=\aleph_3, and Section 3 of Shelah's 1990 chapter obtains, in the constructible universe, a graph on every regular cardinal κ\kappa that is not weakly compact with chromatic number κ\kappa and all smaller subgraphs countably chromatic, which at κ=ℵ2\kappa=\aleph_2 answers the first question. Lambie-Hanson and Rinot list these results in Section 2.1 of their paper on reflection of the coloring and chromatic numbers (Combinatorica 39 (2019), 165--214).

Second question. Rinot 2015 gives a positive answer under 2ℵω=ℵω+12^{\aleph_\omega}=\aleph_{\omega+1} and □ℵω\square_{\aleph_\omega}, both true in the constructible universe, so the question is not disprovable. No model in which the second question fails is recorded here.

Standing. The problem lists its two questions as the parts q1 and q2, and its standing derives from the claim pages. Baumgartner's page and Foreman and Laver's page together settle the first question as independent, the one as not disprovable and the other as not provable. Rinot's page settles only the not disprovable side of the second question, and one side alone leaves that question open, so the problem is open. Neither question is answered in ZFC alone, and the site labels the problem OPEN.

Known Results

  • In ZFC, Erdős and Hajnal [ErHa68b, Theorem 2] prove for every finite kk that some graph on exp⁡k−1(ℵ0)+\exp_{k-1}(\aleph_0)^+ vertices has uncountable chromatic number while all its subgraphs on at most exp⁡k−1(ℵ0)\exp_{k-1}(\aleph_0) vertices are countably chromatic. Under GCH (their Corollary 1) the graph has ℵk\aleph_k vertices and chromatic number ℵ1\aleph_1, and its subgraphs on at most ℵk−1\aleph_{k-1} vertices are countably chromatic. This reaches neither chromatic number ℵ2\aleph_2, which the first question asks for, nor ℵω+1\aleph_{\omega+1} vertices, which the second asks for.
  • First question, consistent yes: Baumgartner 1984 with GCH; Komjáth 1988 with 2ℵ0=ℵ32^{\aleph_0}=\aleph_3; Shelah 1990 in LL.
  • First question, consistent no: Foreman and Laver 1988, from a huge cardinal, with GCH.
  • Second question, consistent yes: Rinot 2015, in LL.

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