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Problem 805

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claims/: The 2 claim pages of Problem 805, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.


Statement. For which functions g(n)g(n) with n>g(n)≥(log⁡n)2n>g(n)\geq (\log n)^2 is there a graph on nn vertices in which every induced subgraph on g(n)g(n) vertices contains a clique of size ≥log⁡n\geq \log n and an independent set of size $\geq \log n$?

In particular, is there such a graph for g(n)=(log⁡n)3g(n)=(\log n)^3?

Status. Open; the site labels the problem OPEN. Two refereed partial results have claim pages. Alon and Sudakov show that no such graph exists for g(n)≤c(log⁡n)3/log⁡log⁡ng(n)\le c(\log n)^3/\log\log n, and Alon, Bucić and Sudakov build one for g(n)=22(log⁡log⁡n)1/2+o(1)g(n)=2^{2^{(\log\log n)^{1/2+o(1)}}}. The case g(n)=(log⁡n)3g(n)=(\log n)^3 is open.

Source. erdosproblems.com/805, accessed 2026-09-10. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #805, https://www.erdosproblems.com/805.

References.

  • [ABS21] Alon, Noga and Bucić, Matija and Sudakov, Benny, Large cliques and independent sets all over the place. Proc. Amer. Math. Soc. (2021), 3145-3157.
  • [AlSu07] Alon, Noga and Sudakov, Benny, On graphs with subgraphs having large independence numbers. J. Graph Theory (2007), 149-157.
  • [Er91] Erdős, P., Problems and results in combinatorial analysis and combinatorial number theory. Graph theory, combinatorics, and applications, Vol. 1 (Kalamazoo, MI, 1988), Wiley (1991), 397--406. The site's source for the problem; [AlSu07] (its [3]) and [ABS21] (its [13]) cite it for the question.

Formalization. None recorded.

Current assessment

The site's formulation asks for a suitable graph on nn vertices such that every subset of size g(n)g(n) contains both a clique and an independent set of the required logarithmic size. These are two requirements on the same subset; disjointness is not required. The site credits the question to Erdős and Hajnal ([Er91]) and reports their belief that no such graph exists when g(n)=(log⁡n)3g(n)=(\log n)^3; [AlSu07] records this as their conjecture. The problem is open, including the particular choice g(n)=(log⁡n)3g(n)=(\log n)^3. The published Alon–Bucić–Sudakov paper explicitly leaves that case open on p. 3146, and its construction below does not reach that threshold.

Search scope: primary arXiv papers, the authors' publication pages and institutional records, and indexed announcements, including X/Twitter queries for #805 and locally Ramsey graphs; no later proof or disproof of the cubed-logarithm case was found. The search was bounded, not an exhaustive literature census.

The 2007 obstruction and the 2021 construction are published results, each a refereed partial claim on its own page: Alon and Sudakov and Alon, Bucić and Sudakov. The corpus has not reconstructed either proof.

Known Results

Alon and Sudakov show that for some absolute c>0c>0 and all sufficiently large nn, no such graph exists with

g(n)=c(ln⁡n)3ln⁡ln⁡ng(n)=c\frac{(\ln n)^3}{\ln\ln n}

and required clique and independent-set sizes at least ln⁡n\ln n. This is the Ramsey-type consequence stated on p. 2 and derived from Theorem 2.2 in the concluding claim on p. 7 of arXiv:0706.4099v1; the published introduction states it on p. 151. The source uses natural logarithms and suppresses immaterial integer roundings. The obstruction is below (ln⁡n)3(\ln n)^3 and does not give nonexistence at that proposed threshold. Its derivation uses the local-independence estimates behind #804, whose separate disproof does not transfer to this question.

For the positive direction, let mG(k)m_G(k) denote the smallest threshold such that every vertex subset of at least that size contains a clique and an independent set each of size at least kk. Alon, Bucić and Sudakov's Theorem 1 gives, for every sufficiently large integer nn, an nn-vertex graph GG with

mG(log⁡2n)≤22(log⁡2log⁡2n)1/2+o(1).m_G(\log_2 n) \le 2^{2^{(\log_2\log_2 n)^{1/2+o(1)}}}.

This is the published theorem on p. 3147 of Proceedings of the American Mathematical Society 149 (2021), 3145–3157, DOI 10.1090/proc/15323, published electronically 14 May 2021. That paper uses base-2 logarithms and permits real thresholds, interpreted by cardinality inequalities. Its required size log⁡2n\log_2 n also exceeds ln⁡n\ln n, so the construction supplies a sufficient threshold for the natural-logarithm convention too. The displayed upper bound is larger than every fixed power of log⁡n\log n; it therefore does not establish the requested (log⁡n)3(\log n)^3 case.

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