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Statement. If GG is a graph on nn vertices without a K4K_4 then how large a triangle-free induced subgraph must GG contain?

Formulation. The site's wording, accessed (the page shows no last-edited date). Write f(n)f(n) for the largest mm such that every K4K_4-free graph on nn vertices has mm vertices spanning no triangle; the question asks for the order of f(n)f(n). This is the Erdős--Rogers function f3,4(n)f_{3,4}(n) of Krivelevich's paper, defined there (p. 1) as

fr,s(n)=min⁡Gn⊉Ksmax⁡{∣V0∣:V0⊆V(G), Kr⊈G[V0]}f_{r,s}(n)=\min_{G^n\not\supseteq K^s}\max\{|V_0|:V_0\subseteq V(G),\ K^r\not\subseteq G[V_0]\}

with r=3r=3, s=4s=4 (the same function is defined in [BoHi91], pp. 119--120, as fr,s(n)=min⁡{hr(G):cl(G)≤s−1, ∣G∣=n}f_{r,s}(n)=\min\{h_r(G):\mathrm{cl}(G)\le s-1,\ |G|=n\} with hr(G)=max⁡{∣W∣:W⊂V(G), cl(G[W])≤r−1}h_r(G)=\max\{|W|:W\subset V(G),\ \mathrm{cl}(G[W])\le r-1\}, again in terms of vertex induced subgraphs), and the f3(n)f_3(n) of Mubayi and Verstraete, defined (p. 1) as "the maximum integer mm such that every nn-vertex Ks+1K_{s+1}-free graph has a KsK_s-free subgraph with mm vertices". The site's wording, like Krivelevich's and Bollobás and Hind's, is about induced subgraphs; Mubayi and Verstraete's definition says "subgraph", but their construction is stated for induced subgraphs ("we require for s≥3s\ge3 an nn-vertex Ks+1K_{s+1}-free graph HH such that every induced subgraph of HH with subtantially [sic] more than about nlog⁡n\sqrt n\log n vertices contains a copy of KsK_s", Section 4, p. 4), so their upper bound applies to the site's function; with "subgraph" read literally the function would be trivial, since every vertex set spans an edgeless subgraph. The site's account uses the same f(n)f(n) and the same induced reading. It is the wording of Problem 3 of Erdős, Gallai and Tuza (1992), quoted below, and of Erdős and Rogers's 1962 Theorem in the case k=4k=4.

Status. OPEN, the site's label, with the site's note that no finite computation can settle the question. The derived standing departs from the label: it is claimed, with the value answered, because a pending full claim answers the question. A preprint of 17 July 2026 by Morris, Sahasrabudhe and Verstraëte claims f(n)=Θ(nlog⁡n)f(n)=\Theta(\sqrt{n\log n}), which would determine the order asked for up to constants; it is unrefereed and not held in the library, and is recorded as claimed on its claim page. The bounds that refereed papers print for f(n)f(n) leave a factor of order (log⁡nlog⁡log⁡n)1/2(\log n\log\log n)^{1/2}:

c nlog⁡nlog⁡log⁡n ≤ f(n) ≤ 2300n log⁡nc\,\sqrt{\frac{n\log n}{\log\log n}}\ \le\ f(n)\ \le\ 2^{300}\sqrt n\,\log n

for all large nn. The upper bound is Theorem 1 of Mubayi and Verstraete (fs(n)=O(nlog⁡n)f_s(n)=O(\sqrt n\log n) for each fixed s≥3s\ge3, with the explicit constant 2100s2^{100s} given after the theorem; Bull. Lond. Math. Soc. 57 (2025), 582--598, refereed; the library holds the arXiv v2), recorded as an accepted partial claim on its claim page. The lower bound rests on Shearer's (1995) Corollary 1 applied to a vertex neighborhood, the deduction that equation (1) of Mubayi and Verstraete's paper records in the form cnlog⁡n/log⁡log⁡nc\sqrt{n\log n}/\log\log n, which the site prints; with the degree threshold balanced the same argument gives the larger cnlog⁡n/log⁡log⁡nc\sqrt{n\log n/\log\log n}, first printed with this argument by Dudek and Mubayi [DM14], whom Mubayi and Verstraete and Gishboliner, Janzer and Sudakov credit. It is recorded as an accepted partial claim on its claim page, and the deduction is written out on the corollary's result page. No refereed source determining the order was found in the search whose scope the Current assessment records; the July 2026 preprint found by it is the claim above, which the site has not adopted. This is a bounded negative finding about the refereed record, not a certificate of openness. Refereed results give more than they print: Corollary 2 of [JMRS21] yields f(n)≥cnlog⁡nf(n)\ge c\sqrt{n\log n} in one line, as the Current assessment records, so the gap they leave is of order (log⁡n)1/2(\log n)^{1/2}, subject to the unexamined claim of a gap in that paper's Theorem 1 recorded on Problem 610.

Source. erdosproblems.com/620, accessed 2026-09-18: the problem page (labeled open, with the note that no finite computation can resolve it; no last-edited date shown; source keys [ErRo62], [EGT92], [Er99]; commentary citing [BoHi91], [Kr94], [Wo13], [Sh95], [MuVe24]), its two-comment discussion thread (1 September 2025 and 7 September 2026) and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #620, https://www.erdosproblems.com/620, accessed 2026-09-18.

References.

  • [ErRo62] Erdős, P. and Rogers, C. A., The construction of certain graphs. Canad. J. Math. 14 (1962), 702--707, doi:10.4153/CJM-1962-060-4 (received October 26, 1961). The Section 3 Theorem and its Remark, p. 704. Library home: erdos_1962_construction_certain_graphs (its edition a Rényi archive scan).
  • [EGT92] Erdős, P., Gallai, T. and Tuza, Zs., Covering the cliques of a graph with vertices. Discrete Math. 108 (1992), 279--289, doi:10.1016/0012-365X(92)90681-5. Problem 3, printed p. 281. Library home: erdos_1992_covering_cliques_graph_vertices.
  • [Kr94] Krivelevich, M., KsK^s-free graphs without large KrK^r-free subgraphs. Combin. Probab. Comput. 3 (1994), no. 3, 349--354, doi:10.1017/S0963548300001243. The copy read is the author's typescript, paginated 1--5 (no file held); locators below are its pages. The definition and the Bollobás--Hind bounds, p. 1; f3,4(7)=4f_{3,4}(7)=4 and Theorem 1, p. 2; Theorem 2 and Corollaries 1--2, p. 5. Library home: krivelevich_1994_free_graphs_without_large_free_subgraphs.
  • [MuVe24] Mubayi, D. and Verstraete, J., On the order of Erdős-Rogers functions. arXiv:2401.02548v2 (8 February 2024; title page dated February 12, 2024), retained; published as "On the order of the classical Erdős–Rogers functions", Bull. Lond. Math. Soc. 57 (2025), no. 2, 582--598, doi:10.1112/blms.13214 (published online 20 December 2024; the journal text is not held). Equation (1), Theorem 1 and the constant 2100s2^{100s}, p. 1; Section 4, p. 4. Library home: mubayi_2024_order_erdos_rogers_functions.
  • [Sh95] Shearer, J. B., On the independence number of sparse graphs. Random Structures Algorithms 7 (1995), no. 3, 269--271, doi:10.1002/rsa.3240070305 (received 12 July 1994, accepted 13 March 1995). Corollary 1, printed p. 271: α≥c(r) nln⁡d/(dln⁡ln⁡d)\alpha\ge c(r)\,n\ln d/(d\ln\ln d) for KrK_r-free graphs (r≥4r\ge4) on nn vertices with maximum degree dd and large dd, the bound [MuVe24]'s equation (1) applies to a vertex neighborhood. Library home: shearer_1995_independence_number_sparse_graphs (no file is held); result page Corollary 1, which records the neighborhood argument.
  • [BoHi91] Bollobás, B. and Hind, H. R., Graphs without large triangle free subgraphs. Discrete Math. 87 (1991), no. 2, 119--131, doi:10.1016/0012-365X(91)90042-Z (received 21 April 1987, revised 25 January 1989). The definitions of hr(G)h_r(G) and fr,s(n)f_{r,s}(n), printed pp. 119--120; Theorem 1 with its proof, p. 120; Theorem 2, p. 121; Theorem 5, p. 127; Theorem 6, p. 128; Theorem 9, Corollary 10 and the closing paragraph, p. 131; the proofs of Theorems 2, 5 and 9 are checked for structure only. Library home: bollobas_hind_1991_graphs_without_large_triangle_free_subgraphs (from the publisher's open-archive copy; no file is held); result pages Theorem 1 and Theorem 5.
  • [Wo13] Wolfovitz, G., K4K_4-free graphs without large induced triangle-free subgraphs. Combinatorica 33 (2013), no. 5, 623--631, doi:10.1007/s00493-013-2845-x (received June 13, 2011). The definitions and Theorem 1.1, printed p. 623; Theorem 1.2, its derivation of Theorem 1.1, the consequence ln⁡f3,4(n)=0.5ln⁡n+O(ln⁡ln⁡n)\ln f_{3,4}(n)=0.5\ln n+O(\ln\ln n) and the account of the author's preprint, p. 624; the proof, pp. 624--630, is checked for structure only. Library home: wolfovitz_2013_k_4_free_graphs_without_large_induced_triangle_free_subgraphs (from the publisher's production text; no file is held); result page Theorem 1.1. The author's earlier preprint "The K4K_4-free process", arXiv:1008.4044v1 (24 August 2010, 36 pp.; abstract only), is the paper's reference [16] and proves only the weaker by-product f(n)=O(n3/5(ln⁡n)1/5)f(n)=O(n^{3/5}(\ln n)^{1/5}), which the paper describes (p. 624) as a (ln⁡n)3/10(\ln n)^{3/10} factor improvement of Krivelevich's upper bound, not the Combinatorica bound.
  • [DRR14] Dudek, A., Retter, T. and Rödl, V., On generalized Ramsey numbers of Erdős and Rogers. J. Combin. Theory Ser. B (2014); arXiv:1309.4521 (18 September 2013). Not held; the bounds f3(n)=O(n(log⁡n)32)f_3(n)=O(\sqrt n(\log n)^{32}) and fs(n)=O(n(log⁡n)2(s+1)2)f_s(n)=O(\sqrt n(\log n)^{2(s+1)^2}) are quoted from [MuVe24], p. 1.
  • [DM14] Dudek, A. and Mubayi, D., On generalized Ramsey numbers for 3-uniform hypergraphs. J. Graph Theory 76 (2014), no. 3, 217--223, doi:10.1002/jgt.21760 (published online 21 August 2013); arXiv:1309.4518 (v1, 18 September 2013). Introduction, p. 2 of the arXiv text: Shearer's bound with the neighborhood argument gives fs,s+1(n)=Ω((nlog⁡n/log⁡log⁡n)1/2)f_{s,s+1}(n)=\Omega((n\log n/\log\log n)^{1/2}) for s≥3s\ge3. Credited by [MuVe24] (p. 1, "As observed by Dudek and the first author") and by [GJS25] (p. 2, their reference [10]). Recorded on its claim page.
  • [GJS25] Gishboliner, L., Janzer, O. and Sudakov, B., Induced subgraphs of KrK_r-free graphs and the Erdős–Rogers problem. Combinatorica 45 (2025), no. 2, article 23, 20 pp., doi:10.1007/s00493-025-00147-1 (received 16 September 2024, accepted 15 February 2025, published online 27 March 2025); arXiv:2409.06650. A copy of the published article (pp. 1--3 used) is filed as gishboliner_2025_induced_subgraphs_k_r_free_graphs_erdos_rogers. The pages used are its introduction (p. 2) and its Theorem 1.2 with the remark after it (p. 3).
  • [MSV26] Morris, R., Sahasrabudhe, J. and Verstraëte, J., On the Erdős-Rogers function. arXiv:2607.16118v1 (17 July 2026), 22 pp.; no journal reference on the arXiv record (2026-10-07); not held, its abstract the source of this page's account. Claim, recorded below.
  • [JMRS21] Joret, G., Micek, P., Reed, B. and Smid, M., Tight bounds on the clique chromatic number. Electron. J. Combin. 28 (2021), no. 3, Paper P3.51, doi:10.37236/9659. Not held; library card joret_2021_tight_bounds_clique_chromatic_number, result page Corollary 2. The ingredient the [MSV26] abstract names for its lower bound.
  • [Er99] Erdős, Paul, A selection of problems and results in combinatorics. Combin. Probab. Comput. 8 (1999), 1--6. Site source key; not held.

Formalization. None. Formal-conjectures had no file ErdosProblems/620.lean on 2026-09-18, the site's page shows no formalized statement, and the community database (teorth/erdosproblems, 2026-09-18) records the problem open (last changed 31 August 2025), not formalized and without a formal proof.

Current assessment

The question (site formulation). The statement above, labeled open. The site's commentary traces the question to Erdős and Rogers [ErRo62], gives it its usual name, and records the history of bounds on f(n)f(n) through [BoHi91], [Kr94] and [Wo13] to the two bounds that stand in the refereed record, Shearer's [Sh95] below and Mubayi and Verstraete's [MuVe24] above; each of those bounds is stated with its source under Known results. The thread holds two comments, one described below and the other under Claims (2026); the proof-claim tab is empty; the community database record says open, not formalized.

Origin. The Section 3 Theorem of [ErRo62] (p. 704): "Let k≥3k\ge3 be an integer. If ckc_k is a positive constant less than log⁡1/{1−(18ηk)2}2log⁡4/ηk\frac{\log1/\{1-(\frac18\eta_k)^2\}}{2\log4/\eta_k}, where

1/η=1/ηk=12(k−1)1/2(k−2)1/2[{2(k−1)2}1/2+{2k(k−2)}1/2],1/\eta=1/\eta_k=\tfrac12(k-1)^{1/2}(k-2)^{1/2}\bigl[\{2(k-1)^2\}^{1/2}+\{2k(k-2)\}^{1/2}\bigr],

and ll is a sufficiently large integer, there is a graph GG, with less than l1+ckl^{1+c_k} vertices, which contains no complete kk-gon, but such that each subgraph with ll vertices contains a complete (k−1)(k-1)-gon." Its Remark: "We can take ck∼1/(512k4log⁡k)c_k\sim1/(512k^4\log k) as k→∞k\to\infty." At k=4k=4 the graph is K4K_4-free and every ll of its vertices span a triangle, so (an authored deduction) f(n)<lf(n)<l for n<l1+c4n<l^{1+c_4}, that is f(n)≤n1/(1+c4)=n1−εf(n)\le n^{1/(1+c_4)}=n^{1-\varepsilon} for some ε>0\varepsilon>0 and all large nn. The paper's introduction (p. 702) states the result as h(k,l)>l1+ckh(k,l)>l^{1+c_k}, where h(k,l)h(k,l) is the least number of vertices forcing a KkK_k or ll vertices with no Kk−1K_{k-1}, credits the problem to Hajnal ("oral communication"), and the construction is geometric (points of a high-dimensional sphere joined when far apart, Section 2's Lemma). The site's other source key, [EGT92], poses the question in the site's words: Problem 3 (printed p. 281): "How large triangle-free induced subgraphs does a K4K_4-free graph GG on nn vertices contain?", posed (p. 280) in connection with what the paper calls an interesting particular case of its Problem 1, the clique-transversal bound of that problem for sparse graphs such as K4K_4-free ones, and followed by "The Erdős--Szekeres theorem [7] implies that α(G)≥cn1/3\alpha(G)\ge cn^{1/3} for some constant c>0c>0, but perhaps the size of triangle-free subgraphs grows faster." [Er99] is not held.

The bounds (statements checked against the printed pages; of the proofs, only the paragraph proving [BoHi91]'s Theorem 1 and the paragraph proving [Sh95]'s Corollary 1 are followed in full).

  • Bollobás--Hind, Theorem 1 (1991, p. 120): "If n>4n>4 then f3,4(n)≥(2n)1/2f_{3,4}(n)\ge(2n)^{1/2}", proved in a paragraph followed in full: a vertex of degree at least (2n)1/2(2n)^{1/2} has a triangle-free neighborhood, and otherwise Brooks' theorem colors the graph with fewer than (2n)1/2(2n)^{1/2} colors and the two largest color classes span no triangle. Theorem 5 (p. 127): "For ϵ>0\epsilon>0 and sufficiently large nn, f3,4(n)≤n(7/10)+ϵf_{3,4}(n)\le n^{(7/10)+\epsilon}", by a random 3-uniform hypergraph with p=n−(7/5)−δp=n^{-(7/5)-\delta} whose graph is made K4K^4-free by deleting, for each K4K^4, the hyperedges through one of its pairs; the weaker Theorem 2 (p. 121), f3,4(n)≤(nlog⁡n)3/4f_{3,4}(n)\le(n\log n)^{3/4}, is proved first, to "give a flavour of the proofs". The general bounds are Theorem 6 (p. 128), fr,s(n)≥n1/(s−r+1)f_{r,s}(n)\ge n^{1/(s-r+1)} for 3≤r<s3\le r<s and n≥1n\ge1, and Corollary 10 (p. 131), fr,s(n)≤n(s−3)/(s−2)+2/(s+1)(s−2)+ϵf_{r,s}(n)\le n^{(s-3)/(s-2)+2/(s+1)(s-2)+\epsilon} for 3≤r<s3\le r<s and large nn; the paper closes (p. 131): "it is still not clear what the actual order of the function fr,s(n)f_{r,s}(n) is. An improvement in the lower bound for fr,s(n)f_{r,s}(n) would be of particular interest." Krivelevich's quotation of these bounds on p. 1 of [Kr94] (they "used sophisticated arguments to show that n1/(s−r+1)≤fr,s(n)≤n(s−3)/(s−2)+2/(s+1)(s−2)+ϵn^{1/(s-r+1)}\le f_{r,s}(n)\le n^{(s-3)/(s-2)+2/(s+1)(s-2)+\epsilon}, and for a particular case of r=3r=3, s=4s=4, (2n)1/2≤f3,4(n)≤n7/10+ϵ(2n)^{1/2}\le f_{3,4}(n)\le n^{7/10+\epsilon}") agrees with the printed statements. The same page of [Kr94] quotes [ErRo62] as giving n1−ϵ(s)n^{1-\epsilon(s)} with ϵ(s)∼c/s4log⁡s\epsilon(s)\sim c/s^4\log s; the introduction of [BoHi91] (p. 119) gives the same ϵs∼1/(512s4log⁡s)\epsilon_s\sim1/(512s^4\log s). Acceptance: Discrete Mathematics is refereed.
  • Krivelevich, Theorem 1 (p. 2): fr,s(n)≥cr,sn1/(s−r+1)(log⁡log⁡n)1−1/(s−r+1)f_{r,s}(n)\ge c_{r,s}n^{1/(s-r+1)}(\log\log n)^{1-1/(s-r+1)}, which at r=3r=3, s=4s=4 is f(n)≥c n1/2(log⁡log⁡n)1/2f(n)\ge c\,n^{1/2}(\log\log n)^{1/2}, by iterating neighborhoods and applying the Ajtai--Erdős--Komlós--Szemerédi independence bound. Corollary 1 (p. 5): f3,4(n)≤cn2/3(log⁡n)1/3f_{3,4}(n)\le cn^{2/3}(\log n)^{1/3}, the case of Theorem 2, fr,s(n)<cr,sn(s−2)r/(s(s−1)−r)(log⁡n)e(r,s)f_{r,s}(n)<c_{r,s}n^{(s-2)r/(s(s-1)-r)}(\log n)^{e(r,s)} with the explicit exponent e(r,s)=((s2)−(r2))/((s2)(r−1)−(r2))e(r,s)=(\binom s2-\binom r2)/(\binom s2(r-1)-\binom r2), proved by a random graph with the Lovász local lemma and Janson's inequality. The paper closes (p. 5): "it is easy to see that the gap between the lower bound of Theorem 1 and the upper bound of Theorem 2 is still relatively large." Its Section 2 determines f3,4(7)=4f_{3,4}(7)=4: every 77-vertex graph in which every four vertices contain a triangle has a K4K_4 (Brooks's theorem), and the circulant on {0,…,6}\{0,\ldots,6\} with differences ±1,±3\pm1,\pm3 (from Linial and Rabinovich) is K4K_4-free with a triangle in every five vertices. Acceptance: Combin. Probab. Comput. is refereed (Crossref: vol. 3, no. 3, 349--354); the copy read is the author's typescript (no file held).
  • Wolfovitz, Theorem 1.1 (2013, p. 623): "For every sufficiently large nn, f3,4(n)≤n1/2(ln⁡n)120f_{3,4}(n)\le n^{1/2}(\ln n)^{120}", with f3,4(n)f_{3,4}(n) defined in the abstract through induced subgraphs, the site's f(n)f(n); the paper's logarithm is the natural one, and [MuVe24] (p. 1, spelling the name "Wolfovits") quotes it as f3(n)=O(n(log⁡n)120)f_3(n)=O(\sqrt n(\log n)^{120}), [GJS25] (p. 2) as f3,4(n)≤n1/2+o(1)f_{3,4}(n)\le n^{1/2+o(1)}. It is proved from Theorem 1.2 (p. 624), the bound with exponent 110 at n=q2+q+1n=q^2+q+1 for large prime powers qq, by a random union of complete tripartite graphs on the lines of a projective plane of order qq, made K4K_4-free by a variant of the K4K_4-free process (Sections 2--3; checked for structure only). The paper records the consequence ln⁡f3,4(n)=0.5ln⁡n+O(ln⁡ln⁡n)\ln f_{3,4}(n)=0.5\ln n+O(\ln\ln n) (p. 624) and calls its bound "tight up to a polylogarithmic factor" (p. 623). Its review of earlier results (pp. 623--624) attributes to Krivelevich the bounds c5(nln⁡ln⁡n)1/2≤f3,4(n)≤c6n3/5(ln⁡n)1/2c_5(n\ln\ln n)^{1/2}\le f_{3,4}(n)\le c_6n^{3/5}(\ln n)^{1/2}, citing [Kr94] and a 1995 paper (Bounding Ramsey numbers through large deviation inequalities, Random Structures Algorithms 7 (1995), 145--155; not held) together; the n3/5n^{3/5} bound is not in [Kr94], whose Corollary 1 gives n2/3(log⁡n)1/3n^{2/3}(\log n)^{1/3}, so it is taken to be the 1995 paper's. Dudek, Retter and Rödl: f3(n)=O(n(log⁡n)32)f_3(n)=O(\sqrt n(\log n)^{32}) and fs(n)=O(n(log⁡n)2(s+1)2)f_s(n)=O(\sqrt n(\log n)^{2(s+1)^2}), quoted on p. 1 of [MuVe24]; second-hand, the paper is not held. The abstract of Wolfovitz's 2010 preprint on the K4K_4-free process says its Ramsey-type by-product is a K4K_4-free nn-vertex graph "in which the largest set of vertices that doesn't span a triangle has size O(n3/5(ln⁡n)1/5)O(n^{3/5}(\ln n)^{1/5})", improving Krivelevich by a factor (ln⁡n)3/10(\ln n)^{3/10}; [Wo13] describes the preprint's result the same way (p. 624), so the preprint is a different, weaker result and does not stand in for [Wo13]. Acceptance: Combinatorica is refereed (received June 13, 2011); the copy read is the publisher's production PDF; no file is held.
  • Mubayi--Verstraete, Theorem 1 (p. 1): "For each fixed s≥3s\ge3, fs(n)=O(nlog⁡n)f_s(n)=O(\sqrt n\log n)", with the sentence after it: "from the proof one may obtain fs(n)≤2100snlog⁡nf_s(n)\le2^{100s}\sqrt n\log n for n≥2n\ge2, which shows fs(n)=n1/2+o(1)f_s(n)=n^{1/2+o(1)} for s=o(log⁡n)s=o(\log n)." At s=3s=3 this is the site's upper bound, f(n)≤2300nlog⁡nf(n)\le2^{300}\sqrt n\log n. The construction (Sections 3--5) samples the Hermitian unital, takes the intersection graph of its lines, and removes Ks+1K_{s+1}'s by a random coloring and random sparsening, with the Lovász local lemma; checked for structure only. Acceptance: the Crossref record gives Bull. Lond. Math. Soc. 57 (2025), no. 2, 582--598 (refereed; published online 20 December 2024) under the title "On the order of the classical Erdős–Rogers functions"; the retained file is the arXiv v2 and the journal text was not compared.
  • Shearer, Corollary 1 (1995, p. 271): a KrK_r-free graph on nn vertices with maximum degree dd, r≥4r\ge4, has an independent set of at least c(r) nln⁡d/(dln⁡ln⁡d)c(r)\,n\ln d/(d\ln\ln d) vertices for large dd; the paper's constants are not explicit and it keeps only leading-order terms in dd. The paper says nothing about f(n)f(n); the lower bound is the deduction equation (1) of [MuVe24] (p. 1) records: a vertex of degree at least DD has a triangle-free neighborhood on DD vertices, and otherwise Corollary 1 at r=4r=4 gives an independent set of size ≫nln⁡D/(Dln⁡ln⁡D)\gg n\ln D/(D\ln\ln D), so f(n)≥min⁡{D, c nln⁡D/(Dln⁡ln⁡D)}f(n)\ge\min\{D,\ c\,n\ln D/(D\ln\ln D)\}. With D=nlog⁡nD=\sqrt{n\log n} this is [MuVe24]'s f(n)=Ω(nlog⁡n/log⁡log⁡n)f(n)=\Omega(\sqrt{n\log n}/\log\log n), the form the site prints; with D=nlog⁡n/log⁡log⁡nD=\sqrt{n\log n/\log\log n} it is the Ω(n1/2(log⁡n)1/2/(log⁡log⁡n)1/2)\Omega(n^{1/2}(\log n)^{1/2}/(\log\log n)^{1/2}) that [GJS25] (p. 2) print as "observed in [10]", their [10] being [DM14], which prints it with this argument (arXiv p. 2), larger by a factor (log⁡log⁡n)1/2(\log\log n)^{1/2} and the best lower bound a refereed paper prints for f(n)f(n) (Corollary 2 of [JMRS21] gives more, as recorded under Claims (2026)). Both follow from the corollary as printed (checked on the result page); the two secondary statements differ only in the choice of threshold, and the site follows [MuVe24]. Acceptance: Random Structures and Algorithms is refereed. The one-paragraph proof of Corollary 1 is followed in full on the result page; the proofs of Theorem 1 and Lemma 1 behind it are checked for structure only.

The two bounds that stand, [DM14]'s below (with Shearer's Corollary 1 as its input) and [MuVe24]'s above, are the refereed results with claim pages. The superseded refereed bounds the site credits, those of [BoHi91], [Kr94] and [Wo13], have none: each is improved on its side by one of those two, and each is stated above with its library result page.

Claims (2026). One claim postdates the refereed record and is the source of this page's derived standing; it is not accepted.

  • [MSV26], the preprint On the Erdős-Rogers function of Morris, Sahasrabudhe and Verstraëte (arXiv:2607.16118, v1 of 17 July 2026, 22 pages), claims by its abstract that fs,s+1(n)=Θ(nlog⁡n)f_{s,s+1}(n)=\Theta(\sqrt{n\log n}) for every s≥2s\ge2: the upper bound from a Ks+1K_{s+1}-free graph on nn vertices in which every set of at least C(s)nlog⁡nC(s)\sqrt{n\log n} vertices contains a KsK_s, and the lower bound deduced from the Joret--Micek--Reed--Smid theorem on the clique chromatic number. At s=3s=3 this determines the order of f(n)f(n) up to constants. The lower half is one line from refereed work: Corollary 2 of [JMRS21], accepted on Problem 610's claim page, gives every graph on n≥n0n\ge n_0 vertices a coloring with at most An/log⁡nA\sqrt{n/\log n} colors in which no maximal clique of size at least two is monochromatic; every triangle of a K4K_4-free graph is a maximal clique, so a largest color class spans no triangle and f(n)≥nlog⁡n/Af(n)\ge\sqrt{n\log n}/A. No refereed paper prints this deduction, and it inherits the unexamined claim, recorded on Problem 610's page, of a gap in the proof of the theorem behind the corollary; the new part of the claim is the upper bound. A discussion comment of 7 September 2026 reports the preprint as a solution; the site's label is OPEN and the page carries no update note. The preprint is unrefereed (no journal reference on the arXiv record on 2026-10-07 and no Crossref record on 2026-09-18) and not held; no review or acceptance evidence is known. Recorded as a pending full claim on its claim page; its refereed publication or a documented independent acceptance is the condition for this page's standing to change.

Leads with provenance (not status).

  • A discussion comment of 1 September 2025 points to [MuVe24]'s O(nlog⁡n)O(\sqrt n\log n) and the Shearer-based lower bound; the site was updated after it.
  • [GJS25] (pp. 1--3): Theorem 1.2 gives fF,Kr(n)=O(n1/2−ε)f_{F,K_r}(n)=O(n^{1/2-\varepsilon}) for every r≥4r\ge4 and every Kr−1K_{r-1}-free FF; its remark that "if FF contains Kr−1K_{r-1}, then fF,Kr(n)≥fKr−1,Kr(n)≥n1/2+o(1)f_{F,K_r}(n)\ge f_{K_{r-1},K_r}(n)\ge n^{1/2+o(1)} for any rr" covers this problem's case F=K3F=K_3, r=4r=4, so the theorem does not apply to f(n)f(n) and is cited for context only.
  • arXiv titles returned by the search below (titles only): "Tight connectivity and shadow densities in generalized Erdős--Rogers problems" (arXiv:2607.00732, July 2026), "Erdős-Rogers functions for arbitrary pairs of graphs" (arXiv:2407.03121), "On the maximum FF-free induced subgraphs in KtK_t-free graphs" (arXiv:2406.13780), "Improved bounds for the Erdős-Rogers (s,s+2)(s,s+2)-problem" (arXiv:2307.05441); none names the (3,4)(3,4) case in its title.

Search scope. None of the routes below found a refereed determination of the order of f(n)f(n); the one claim found is the preprint above.

  • The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; the formal-conjectures directory (no file 620); the community database.
  • arXiv: the API record of 2401.02548 (v1 4 January 2024, v2 8 February 2024, no journal reference); the abstract pages of 2607.16118 (one version) and 1008.4044 (one version); the API searches all:Rogers AND all:Ramsey (ten records, listed in part above), abs:"triangle-free" AND abs:induced AND abs:"K_4-free" (five records, one of them arXiv:2407.03121) and all:"Erdos-Rogers" (no record; the API does not match the accented name).
  • Crossref: the records of [MuVe24], [Kr94], [ErRo62], [GJS25], [Wo13], [Sh95], [BoHi91] and [JMRS21]; a bibliographic query for the title of [MSV26] (no record).
  • Semantic Scholar: the citation list of [MuVe24] (one record, on minimal multicolor Ramsey graphs).
  • The primary sources the account rests on, with the pages used: [ErRo62] pp. 702--707; [EGT92] printed pp. 280--281; [Kr94] pp. 1--5; [MuVe24] pp. 1--4; [GJS25] pp. 1--3; [BoHi91] printed pp. 119--131 and [Wo13] printed pp. 623--631.

Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Not held: [DRR14], [MSV26], [JMRS21], [Er99], the journal texts of [MuVe24] and [Kr94]; [Sh95], [BoHi91] and [Wo13] were filed after the search.

Remaining gaps. (1) Refereed papers print bounds on f(n)f(n) between cnlog⁡n/log⁡log⁡nc\sqrt{n\log n/\log\log n} and 2300nlog⁡n2^{300}\sqrt n\log n; Corollary 2 of [JMRS21] gives f(n)≥cnlog⁡nf(n)\ge c\sqrt{n\log n} in one line (subject to the gap claim recorded on Problem 610's page), so the open part is a factor (log⁡n)1/2(\log n)^{1/2}. [MSV26] claims the matching upper bound O(nlog⁡n)O(\sqrt{n\log n}); what would settle the order is the refereed publication or documented independent acceptance of [MSV26], after which its theorem would be paged and its claim page moved to accepted. (2) The 2014 upper bound rests on a second-hand quotation: [DRR14] is not held, and the account uses it through a held refereed introduction. [Sh95], [BoHi91] and [Wo13] were read in the publishers' copies and are filed in the library (no file is held), and the statements of [Sh95]'s Corollary 1, [BoHi91]'s Theorems 1 and 5 and [Wo13]'s Theorem 1.1 are checked against the printed pages, so the lower bound and the 1991 and 2013 bounds are first-hand, the lower bound through the two-line neighborhood argument recorded on the corollary's result page. (3) Proof coverage is statements only: the Section 3 Theorem, Krivelevich's Theorem 1 and Corollary 1, Mubayi--Verstraete's Theorem 1, [BoHi91]'s Theorems 1 and 5, [Wo13]'s Theorem 1.1 and [Sh95]'s Corollary 1 are paged at claims checked; apart from the one-paragraph proofs of [BoHi91]'s Theorem 1 and [Sh95]'s Corollary 1, followed in full (the latter a reduction to Theorem 1 of that paper, whose proof is checked for structure only), no proof is followed or reviewed. (4) The journal texts of [MuVe24] and [Kr94] are not compared with the editions read. (5) [Er99], one of the site's source keys, is not held.

Known results

  • Erdős--Rogers, Section 3 Theorem (1962): K4K_4-free graphs on fewer than l1+c4l^{1+c_4} vertices with a triangle in every ll vertices, so f(n)≤n1−εf(n)\le n^{1-\varepsilon}; the origin.
  • Erdős--Gallai--Tuza, Problem 3 (1992): the question in the site's words, with the trivial α(G)≥cn1/3\alpha(G)\ge cn^{1/3}.
  • Bollobás--Hind, Theorem 1 and Theorem 5 (1991): (2n)1/2≤f(n)≤n7/10+ϵ(2n)^{1/2}\le f(n)\le n^{7/10+\epsilon}, the left for n>4n>4 and the right for every ϵ>0\epsilon>0 and large nn; their Theorem 6 and Corollary 10 give n1/(s−r+1)≤fr,s(n)≤n(s−3)/(s−2)+2/(s+1)(s−2)+ϵn^{1/(s-r+1)}\le f_{r,s}(n)\le n^{(s-3)/(s-2)+2/(s+1)(s-2)+\epsilon}.
  • Krivelevich, Theorem 1 and Corollary 1 (1994): cn1/2(log⁡log⁡n)1/2≤f(n)≤cn2/3(log⁡n)1/3cn^{1/2}(\log\log n)^{1/2}\le f(n)\le cn^{2/3}(\log n)^{1/3}; Section 2: f(7)=4f(7)=4.
  • Wolfovitz, Theorem 1.1 (2013): f(n)≤n1/2(ln⁡n)120f(n)\le n^{1/2}(\ln n)^{120} for all large nn, the first bound of the form n1/2+o(1)n^{1/2+o(1)}; Dudek--Retter--Rödl (2014), quoted in [MuVe24]: f(n)=O(n(log⁡n)32)f(n)=O(\sqrt n(\log n)^{32}).
  • Mubayi--Verstraete, Theorem 1 (2025, refereed): f(n)≤2300nlog⁡nf(n)\le2^{300}\sqrt n\log n; the best upper bound, recorded on its claim page.
  • Shearer, Corollary 1 (1995, refereed): α≥c(r) nln⁡d/(dln⁡ln⁡d)\alpha\ge c(r)\,n\ln d/(d\ln\ln d) for KrK_r-free graphs of maximum degree dd; applied to a vertex neighborhood as equation (1) of [MuVe24] records, f(n)≫nlog⁡n/log⁡log⁡nf(n)\gg\sqrt{n\log n}/\log\log n, the form the site prints, and f(n)≫nlog⁡n/log⁡log⁡nf(n)\gg\sqrt{n\log n/\log\log n} with the threshold balanced, first printed by Dudek and Mubayi, the best lower bound a refereed paper prints; Corollary 2 of [JMRS21] gives f(n)≫nlog⁡nf(n)\gg\sqrt{n\log n} in one line (Current assessment).
  • Morris--Sahasrabudhe--Verstraëte 2026 (claimed, unrefereed): f(n)=Θ(nlog⁡n)f(n)=\Theta(\sqrt{n\log n}).
  • Related: Problem 533 uses the 1962 construction for its δ3(7)≥1/4\delta_3(7)\ge1/4 observation.

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