Wiki
Wiki

Research notes on every problem, and a library of the papers behind them. Built from the open erdos repository.

Updated

Problem 519

../

claims/: The 3 claim pages of Problem 519, one per claimant's result; the problem's standing derives from them.


Statement. Let z1,…,zn∈Cz_1,\ldots,z_n\in \mathbb{C} with z1=1z_1=1. Must there exist an absolute constant c>0c>0 such that

max⁡1≤k≤n∣∑izik∣>c?\max_{1\leq k\leq n}\left\lvert \sum_{i}z_i^k\right\rvert>c?

Status. PROVED (LEAN). The site labels the problem PROVED (LEAN) (page last edited 1 February 2026), credits Atkinson [At61b] with the solution, c=1/6c=1/6, and names Biró's improvements to c=1/2c=1/2 [Bi94] and to an absolute constant above 1/21/2 [Bi00]; the Lean qualifier refers to formalizations of Atkinson's proof that have not been built here (see Formalization). Three accepted claim pages record three full proofs, each on its refereed venue and the site's credit: Atkinson 1961, Biró 1994 and Biró 2000; the frontmatter standing derives from them.

Source. erdosproblems.com/519, accessed 2026-09-04. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #519, https://www.erdosproblems.com/519.

References.

Formalization. Statement in formal-conjectures, linked at a pinned revision current on 2026-10-07, whose theorem is marked solved with its proof left open and points to a Lean proof of Atkinson's bound 1/61/6 in Boris Alexeev's lean-proofs repository (Lean 4.29.1 with Mathlib), which the statement file cites at that repository's main branch and which is linked here pinned to the revision of 24 June 2026, the latest to change the file as of 2026-10-07, whose header names Atkinson as the informal author and Aristotle and John Jennings as the formal authors; the forum thread links the same autoformalization as a gist of 19 April 2026. Neither has been built or audited in this repository; the Atkinson claim page carries the links and the standing rests on the papers.

Current assessment

The question, in the site's formulation of 2026-09-04, is Turán's: among the first nn power sums of complex numbers z1,…,znz_1,\ldots,z_n with z1=1z_1=1, is the largest modulus bounded below by a positive constant independent of nn? Turán's own bound was of order 1/n1/n. The answer is yes. Three refereed proofs have claim pages: Atkinson's 1961 theorem gives c=1/6c=1/6 and is the solution the site credits, Biró's 1994 Theorem 1 gives the strict bound 1/21/2, and Biró's 2000 theorem gives an effectively computable absolute constant above 1/21/2 without computing it. Each is accepted here on its refereed publication and the site's credit, on the claim pages named in the Status sentence. Between Atkinson's and Biró's papers lie two further papers of Atkinson, which the introduction of [Bi94] (p. 209) records: the first proved Rn>1/3R_n>1/3, and the second, Some further estimates concerning sums of powers of complex numbers, Acta Math. Acad. Sci. Hungar. 20 (1969), 193--210, proved Rn>π/8R_n>\pi/8 for n<1600n<1600 and Rn>s0R_n>s_0 for all sufficiently large nn, with 0<s0<π/80<s_0<\pi/8 defined by an integral equation and not computed. Here RnR_n is the least possible value of the displayed maximum, as under Known Results. Neither paper has a claim page: [Bi94] gives no reference for the 1/31/3 paper, neither paper is held, and their statements are known here only through Biró's account, which for the 1969 paper covers the small and the large nn separately. Biró's 1994 proof and its planar lemma are reconstructed in the library; the reconstruction is compilation, and no independent review verdict is recorded for any of the three proofs. The upper estimates of [Bi00b], recorded under Known Results, show that no constant at or above 5/65/6 works for all large nn (0.693680.69368 by Harcos's computation) and bound the limit superior of the optimal constants RnR_n, so none of the lower bounds is presented as sharp. The Lean formalizations named under Formalization have not been built or audited here. The status search covered the site, its forum thread and the community database on 2026-10-07; the thread's one formal result is the autoformalization of Atkinson's proof, recorded on his claim page, and no other claim of the result was found there.

Progress

The complete published proof of Biró's 1994 Theorem 1 is reconstructed at [[../library/analysis/biro_1994_problem_turan_concerning_sums_powers_complex/theorem_1|the strict one-half lower bound]]. Its essential planar input is separately reconstructed at [[../library/analysis/biro_1994_problem_turan_concerning_sums_powers_complex/lemma_1|Lemma 1]].

Known Results

Atkinson [At61b] (library card) proved in 1961 that the displayed maximum exceeds 1/61/6 for every such system, the first bound independent of nn; this is the accepted claim Atkinson 1961.

Biró proved in 1994 that for every such system

max⁡1≤k≤n∣∑izik∣>12.\max_{1\leq k\leq n}\left|\sum_i z_i^k\right|>\frac12.

Thus c=1/2c=1/2 answers the question as well (Biró 1994). The proof uses the Newton--Girard identities for the polynomial whose roots are z2,…,znz_2,\ldots,z_n and an elementary geometric dichotomy for its coefficient partial sums.

The value 1/21/2 records the 1994 result, not a sharp or current-best claim. Biró's 2000 paper [Bi00] (Theorem) proves that an effectively computable absolute q>1/2q>1/2 works for every nn, without computing a concrete value of qq; this is the accepted claim Biró 2000. The separate upper-bound paper [Bi00b] (Theorem) proves lim sup⁡n→∞Rn<1\limsup_{n\to\infty}R_n<1, where RnR_n is the minimum possible displayed maximum under the equivalent maximum-modulus-one normalization; it also derives Rn<5/6R_n<5/6 for all sufficiently large nn, and its addendum records Harcos's computation lim sup⁡n→∞Rn<0.69368\limsup_{n\to\infty}R_n<0.69368. These later proofs are outside the proof chain compiled here.

Linked library material

These entries are derived from explicit links on library pages. They are navigation only and do not by themselves record mathematical progress.