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Problem 866

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Statement. Let k≥3k\geq 3 and gk(N)g_k(N) be minimal such that if $A\subseteq {1,\ldots,2N}$ has ∣A∣≥N+gk(N)\lvert A\rvert \geq N+g_k(N) then there exist integers b1,…,bkb_1,\ldots,b_k such that all (k2)\binom{k}{2} pairwise sums are in AA (but the bib_i themselves need not be in AA).

Estimate gk(N)g_k(N).

Formulation. The site's wording of 2026-09-18 (page last edited 1 December 2025). Two conventions the wording leaves open decide the values. First, the bib_i must be distinct: with b1=b2=bb_1=b_2=b any AA containing an even number aa and any a′a' admits b=a/2b=a/2, b3=a′−a/2b_3=a'-a/2, so the statement is empty without distinctness; the 1975 paper's convention ("a sum ... will mean ... one formed with distinct integers") and the 2026 paper's definition require it, and a thread comment of 26 February 2026 asks for the requirement to be added. Second, the bib_i are integers: at most one of them can be non-positive (two non-positive bb's have a non-positive sum), and allowing that one changes the values for k=3k=3 and k=5k=5. The 2026 paper writes gk(n)g_k(n) for the site's function (one bib_i may be non-positive) and hk(n)h_k(n) for the variant with kk distinct positive integers, with gk(n)≤hk(n)≤gk+1(n)g_k(n)\le h_k(n)\le g_{k+1}(n); the 1975 paper's tkt_k is the site's gk(N)g_k(N) in intent but its lower-bound examples for k=3k=3 and k=5k=5 hold only for hkh_k (below). The odd numbers show gk(N)≥0g_k(N)\ge0. Erdős's restatements use other normalizations: [Er92c], p. 41, defines gk(n)g_k(n) for sets "not exceeding nn" but prints the 1975 values for sets in [1,2n][1,2n] ("g3(n)=n+2g_3(n)=n+2, g4(n)=n+cg_4(n)=n+c"), and [Er72], p. 83, writes the thresholds as k>n2+⋯k>\tfrac n2+\cdots for sets in [1,n][1,n]; the site's normalization is the 1975 paper's. The site's source keys are [CES75] and [Er92c, p. 41].

Status. Open. The site's label is OPEN (page last edited 1 December 2025; so labeled on 2026-09-18 and 2026-10-06). The question asks for the order of gk(N)g_k(N), and no source determines it beyond the following: g3(N)=1g_3(N)=1 for N≥3N\ge3 and g4(N)=3g_4(N)=3 for N≥2N\ge2 (van Doorn 2026, Theorems 1 and 3, an arXiv preprint); 4≤g5(N)<1.2⋅1084\le g_5(N)<1.2\cdot10^8 for N≥3N\ge3 (van Doorn 2026, Theorems 5 and 8), where the 1975 statement g5(N)≍log⁡Ng_5(N)\asymp\log N holds for the positive-integer variant h5h_5 only; g6(N)≍N1/2g_6(N)\asymp N^{1/2} (Choi, Erdős and Szemerédi 1975, Theorem 4, both bounds valid for the site's g6g_6); gk(N)≤2k−1N1−21−kg_k(N)\le2^{k-1}N^{1-2^{1-k}} for large NN (1975, Theorem 5) and gk(N)<4N1−22−kg_k(N)<4N^{1-2^{2-k}} for large NN (van Doorn 2026, Theorem 9, stated with a sketch); and gk(N)>N1−ϵg_k(N)>N^{1-\epsilon} for all k≥k0(ϵ)k\ge k_0(\epsilon) and large NN (1975, Theorem 6). Open: the value of g5g_5 (bounded, between 44 and 1.2⋅1081.2\cdot10^8), the constants for k=6k=6, the order of gkg_k for every k≥7k\ge7, and the exponent for large kk. The results that settle instances of the question are recorded on the claim pages of Choi, Erdős and Szemerédi (accepted, partial: the order of g4g_4 and g6g_6 and the general bounds), van Doorn (claimed, partial: g3g_3 and g4g_4 exactly, g5g_5 bounded) and Erlbacher's release (claimed, partial: g5(N)≤3,519,219g_5(N)\le3{,}519{,}219, an AI-produced manuscript of 8 July 2026 with a Lean development, announced in the thread); none is a full claim, so the standing derived from them is open. No proof claim exists on the site. This is a bounded negative finding, not a certificate of openness.

Source. erdosproblems.com/866, accessed 2026-09-18: the problem page (labeled OPEN, with the site's note that the problem cannot be settled by a finite computation; last edited 1 December 2025; source keys [CES75], [Er92c, p. 41]; a thanks line naming Wouter van Doorn; indicators "Formalised statement? No" and "OEIS: Possible"), its five-comment discussion thread (30 August 2025 to 8 July 2026) and its empty proof-claim tab. Cite as: T. F. Bloom, Erdős Problem #866, https://www.erdosproblems.com/866, accessed 2026-09-18.

References.

Formalization. None: no file ErdosProblems/866.lean existed in google-deepmind/formal-conjectures and the site's indicator reads "Formalised statement? No (create one)". The community database (teorth/erdosproblems,) records the problem open (last changed 31 August 2025), the statement not formalized and formal_status unformalized. The 2026 paper's own Lean file (its reference [5], linked from van Doorn's claim page) and the Lean development of the release of 8 July 2026 (linked from Erlbacher's claim page) are developments the corpus has not built, so neither gives formalized evidence.

Current assessment

The question (site formulation of 2026-09-18). The statement above; OPEN, with the site's note that the problem cannot be settled by a finite computation; last edited 1 December 2025. The commentary attributes the problem to Choi, Erdős and Szemerédi, observes that the odd numbers in {1,…,2N}\{1,\ldots,2N\} admit no such bib_i, so gk(N)≥0g_k(N)\ge0, credits the 1975 paper with g3(N)=2g_3(N)=2, g4(N)≪1g_4(N)\ll1, g5(N)≍log⁡Ng_5(N)\asymp\log N, g6(N)≍N1/2g_6(N)\asymp N^{1/2}, gk(N)≪kN1−2−kg_k(N)\ll_kN^{1-2^{-k}} and, for every ϵ>0\epsilon>0 and all large kk, gk(N)>N1−ϵg_k(N)>N^{1-\epsilon}, credits van Doorn with g4(N)≤2032g_4(N)\le2032, and names the odd integers with the powers of 22 as its example for a lower bound of order log⁡N\log N on g5g_5. The thread, oldest first: a comment of 30 August 2025 (the account Woett, whom the site thanks as Wouter van Doorn) linking a work in progress that then gave g4(N)≤2338g_4(N)\le2338 (revised to 20322032 on 3 September 2025), later marked as subsumed by the paper below (the site's commentary was updated to that figure); a comment of 26 February 2026 (the same account) making the two conventions above explicit, showing that the 1975 example for k=5k=5 fails for the site's g5g_5 with b=(−1,2,3,5,6)b=(-1,2,3,5,6) when N≥6N\ge6, proving g3(N)=1g_3(N)=1 for N≥3N\ge3 in the comment itself, and noting g3(2)=2g_3(2)=2; a comment of 4 May 2026 (the same account) announcing the paper below with g3(N)=1g_3(N)=1 (N≥3N\ge3), g4(N)=3g_4(N)=3 (N≥2N\ge2), g5(N)<1.2⋅108g_5(N)<1.2\cdot10^8 and gk(N)<4N1−22−kg_k(N)<4N^{1-2^{2-k}} for large NN, all verified in Lean according to the comment, saying that the g4g_4 result was obtained with the help of a chat model and the explicit h4h_4 bound with an automated prover (ChatGPT and Aristotle, the systems the paper's Section 2 names), listing the best known bounds for hkh_k (h3(N)=2h_3(N)=2 for N≥4N\ge4, h4(N)≤2270h_4(N)\le2270, h5(N)≍log⁡Nh_5(N)\asymp\log N, h6(N)≍Nh_6(N)\asymp\sqrt N, hk(N)<4N1−22−kh_k(N)<4N^{1-2^{2-k}}), and adding that [Er72, p. 83] also mentions the problem and could be added as a reference (the site's keys were unchanged as of 2026-10-06); a comment of 4 May 2026 (a thread commenter) congratulating; and a comment of 8 July 2026 (the account John Erlbacher) announcing, as AI-assisted work with linked Lean files, h4(n)=4h_4(n)=4 for large nn and g5(n)≤3.6⋅106g_5(n)\le3.6\cdot10^6, the release recorded on its claim page. The proof-claim tab is empty.

The 1975 source (printed pp. 37--43). Section 1 of [CES75] takes AA a sequence of n+tn+t positive integers not exceeding 2n2n and defines tkt_k as the least tt such that one can always choose kk integers all whose pairwise sums appear in AA; the site's gk(N)g_k(N) is tkt_k with NN for nn. Theorems 1--4: n+2n+2 members force three bb's for n≥4n\ge4 (Theorem 1), n+c1n+c_1 force four (Theorem 2), n+c2log⁡nn+c_2\log n force five and c2′log⁡nc_2'\log n do not (Theorem 3), n+c3n1/2n+c_3n^{1/2} force six and c3′n1/2c_3'n^{1/2} do not (Theorem 4); the summary display on p. 42 reads t3=2t_3=2, 2<t4≤c12<t_4\le c_1, c2′log⁡n≤t5≤c2log⁡nc_2'\log n\le t_5\le c_2\log n, c3′n1/2≤t6≤c3n1/2c_3'n^{1/2}\le t_6\le c_3n^{1/2}. The lower bounds for t3t_3 and t5t_5 rest on the examples "22 and all the odd integers" (p. 37) and "all the odd integers and the integers 2,22,23,…2,2^2,2^3,\ldots" (p. 40), which the 2026 paper shows to fail when one bib_i may be non-positive (b=(1,2,0)b=(1,2,0), resp. b=(−1,2,3,5,6)b=(-1,2,3,5,6)); the lower bound for t6t_6 (odd integers plus c3′n1/2c_3'n^{1/2} even integers ≡2(mod4)\equiv2\pmod4 with distinct pairwise sums, p. 42) holds for the site's g6g_6 as the 2026 paper notes (p. 12). Theorem 5 (p. 42): t≥2kn1−2−kt\ge2^kn^{1-2^{-k}} forces k+1k+1 integers b0,…,bkb_0,\ldots,b_k, that is gk(N)≤2k−1N1−21−kg_k(N)\le2^{k-1}N^{1-2^{1-k}} for large NN (the site prints the weaker N1−2−kN^{1-2^{-k}}); its Corollary: t≥δnt\ge\delta n forces k≫δlog⁡log⁡nk\gg_\delta\log\log n integers. Theorem 6 (p. 43): for every 0<ε<10<\varepsilon<1 there is k0(ε)k_0(\varepsilon) such that for large nn some AA of n+[n1−ε]n+[n^{1-\varepsilon}] members (the odd integers plus [n1−ε][n^{1-\varepsilon}] even ones) admits no k0(ε)k_0(\varepsilon) integers with all pairwise sums in AA; the bib_i are arbitrary integers here, so the site's gk(N)>N1−ϵg_k(N)>N^{1-\epsilon} for large kk stands. Read depth: claims checked for all six statements and the examples; the proofs read for structure only (Theorem 6's counting argument not in detail).

The 2026 source (arXiv v1, a preprint). [vD26] revisits the definition (Section 3, p. 2): the 1975 statements call the members of AA positive integers and the bib_i integers, one of which may therefore be non-positive, and this "does actually matter". Its results for the site's gkg_k: Theorem 1, g3(n)=1g_3(n)=1 for all n≥3n\ge3 (with g3(1)=g3(2)=2g_3(1)=g_3(2)=2 and Theorem 2: no negative bib_i is needed, 0≤b1<b2<b30\le b_1<b_2<b_3 suffice); Theorem 3, g4(n)=3g_4(n)=3 for all n≥2n\ge2; Theorem 5, g5(n)≥4g_5(n)\ge4 for n≥3n\ge3; Theorem 8, g5(n)<1.2⋅108g_5(n)<1.2\cdot10^8 for all nn (the constant 113,591,719113{,}591{,}719, from the 1975 argument with explicit constants and a Sidon-set bound of O'Bryant); Theorem 9, gk(n)≤hk(n)<4n1−22−kg_k(n)\le h_k(n)<4n^{1-2^{2-k}} for k≥3k\ge3 and large nn (a sketch). For the positive variant: Theorem 4, h5(n)>log⁡2nh_5(n)>\log_2n for all nn by the 1975 example, and Section 7's sketch of h4(n)≤3166h_4(n)\le3166 with the formalization's 22702270. Section 7 also says that no counterexample to g5(n)≤5g_5(n)\le5 was found up to n=15n=15 and that g5(n)≤4g_5(n)\le4 for large nn cannot be excluded. Read depth: claims checked for Theorems 1--5, 8 and 9 and Lemma 7; the proofs of Theorems 1--5 read through, those of Lemma 7 and Theorem 8 for their structure; nothing independently reviewed. Acceptance evidence: none beyond the site's thanks and the updated commentary figure; no citing paper (the citation service lists none), no independent review found. Provenance, recorded not judged: Section 2 declares that ChatGPT (model GPT-5.3 Instant) was used for brainstorming and autonomously produced the proof of Theorem 3, and that the automated theorem prover Aristotle, from Harmonic, produced Lean formalizations of every statement marked with a checkmark (the mark stands before Theorems 1--9 and Lemma 7), improving the h4h_4 bound on the way.

Site against sources (figures side by side). The site prints g3(N)=2g_3(N)=2 where the 1975 theorem gives t3=2t_3=2 under the positive reading (h3(N)=2h_3(N)=2 for N≥4N\ge4) and the 2026 paper gives g3(N)=1g_3(N)=1 for N≥3N\ge3; g4(N)≪1g_4(N)\ll1 and g4(N)≤2032g_4(N)\le2032 where the 2026 paper gives g4(N)=3g_4(N)=3 for N≥2N\ge2; g5(N)≍log⁡Ng_5(N)\asymp\log N and the example g5(N)≫log⁡Ng_5(N)\gg\log N where the lower bound holds for h5h_5 only and the 2026 paper gives 4≤g5(N)<1.2⋅1084\le g_5(N)<1.2\cdot10^8 for N≥3N\ge3; g6(N)≍N1/2g_6(N)\asymp N^{1/2}, which stands; gk(N)≪kN1−2−kg_k(N)\ll_kN^{1-2^{-k}}, weaker than the 1975 Theorem 5's 2k−1N1−21−k2^{k-1}N^{1-2^{1-k}} and the 2026 Theorem 9's 4N1−22−k4N^{1-2^{2-k}}; and the N1−ϵN^{1-\epsilon} lower bound, which stands. None of these changes the status (open); the commentary predates the paper (last edited 1 December 2025).

The origins. [Er92c], p. 41: "In our paper we investigate also a slightly different problem which seems interesting and which I completely forgot. Denote by gk(n)g_k(n) the smallest integer so that for any set of gk(n)g_k(n) positive integers not exceeding nn, there always are kk integers b1,b2,⋯ ,bkb_1,b_2,\cdots,b_k so that all the sums bi+bjb_i+b_j, 1≤i<j≤k1\le i<j\le k are aa's. The difference is that the bb's do not have to be aa's. We proved g3(n)=n+2g_3(n)=n+2, g4(n)=n+cg_4(n)=n+c for some constant cc if n>n0n>n_0, n+c1log⁡n<g5(n)<n+c2log⁡nn+c_1\log n<g_5(n)<n+c_2\log n; n+c3n1/2<g6(n)<n+c4n1/2n+c_3n^{1/2}<g_6(n)<n+c_4n^{1/2}. We could not get a good estimation for g7(n)g_7(n). We proved that for every kk gk(n)<n2+2kn1−2−kg_k(n)<\frac n2+2^kn^{1-2^{-k}} and for every ε>0\varepsilon>0 and k>k0(ε)k>k_0(\varepsilon) gk(n)>n2+n1−εg_k(n)>\frac n2+n^{1-\varepsilon}." The values n+2n+2, n+cn+c, n+c1log⁡nn+c_1\log n and n+c3n1/2n+c_3n^{1/2} are the 1975 thresholds for sets in [1,2n][1,2n] (n+tkn+t_k), not for sets "not exceeding nn" as the sentence says, while the last two displays halve the main term as for [1,n][1,n]; the site's normalization follows the 1975 paper. [Er72], p. 83 (the announcement the 2026 paper cites as "[2, p. 83]"): "If k>n2+n1−εℓk>\frac n2+n^{1-\varepsilon_\ell} there are ℓ\ell integers b1,…,bℓb_1,\ldots,b_\ell so that all the (ℓ2)\binom\ell2 sums bi+bjb_i+b_j are distinct and in AA (here it is not assumed that bi∈Ab_i\in A). Also if k=n2+2k=\frac n2+2, n>n0n>n_0 these [sic] are three bb's ... The odd numbers and 22 shows that this is false for k=n+1k=n+1 [sic]. If k>n2+tk>\frac n2+t (tt independent of nn) there are four bb's ... We were too lazy to determine tt. If k>n2+clog⁡nk>\frac n2+c\log n there are five bb's ... The powers of 22 and the odd numbers show that apart from the value of cc this is best possible and finally for six bb's we need k>n2+cnk>\frac n2+c\sqrt n." The two marked readings are the print's: "these" stands for "there", and the example of the odd numbers and 22 has about n/2+1n/2+1 members in [1,n][1,n], so the printed k=n+1k=n+1 cannot be the threshold meant (the 1975 paper's t3=2t_3=2 puts it at n/2+1n/2+1).

Forum and AI-assisted items (unverified). The thread comment of 8 July 2026 links a GitHub repository whose release folder of the same day holds a dated manuscript, Draft v5, and a Lean development, both produced by AI agents under the direction of John Erlbacher; they are recorded on Erlbacher's claim page. The release claims g5(N)≤3,519,219g_5(N)\le3{,}519{,}219 for all NN with its own Lean proof, which the corpus has not built; the thread's 3.6⋅1063.6\cdot10^6 is that constant rounded. Its h4(n)=4h_4(n)=4 for n≥331,777n\ge331{,}777 concerns the positive-integer variant, not the site's g4g_4. No proof claim exists on the site.

Search scope. None of the routes below found a journal version of [vD26], a determination of g5g_5, of the constants for k=6k=6 or of the order of gkg_k for k≥7k\ge7, or a paper on the exponent for large kk.

  • The site: problem page, discussion thread and proof-claim tab; the formal-conjectures directory (no file on 2026-09-18); the community database on that day.
  • arXiv: the API record and abstract page of 2605.00040 (one version, no journal reference); the API queries abs:"pairwise sums" AND abs:Erdős sorted by date (two records: [vD26] and an unrelated 2023 paper) and the abstract search for "Erdős problem 866" (no record).
  • Crossref: a bibliographic query for the preprint's title (no record); the record of [CES75].
  • Semantic Scholar: the citation list of arXiv:2605.00040 (empty).
  • The primary sources: [CES75] printed pp. 37--47; [vD26] pp. 1--14; [Er92c] printed pp. 40--41; [Er72] printed pp. 82--83.

Not searched: MathSciNet, zbMATH, Google Scholar, X. Not held: O'Bryant's and Ruzsa's Sidon-set papers cited by [vD26], not needed for the statements.

Remaining gaps. (1) The exact values and the constant bound for k=5k=5 rest on an unrefereed preprint with declared AI assistance and a formalization the corpus has not built, and on an AI-produced release of 8 July 2026 with a Lean proof the corpus has not built; the 1975 refereed results stand for k=6k=6 and for the general bounds. (2) The value of g5g_5 (bounded, between 44 and 1.2⋅1081.2\cdot10^8; a claimed release of 8 July 2026 gives 3,519,2193{,}519{,}219, with a Lean proof the corpus has not built) is open; the constants for k=6k=6 are open; the order of gkg_k is open for every k≥7k\ge7, where only N1/2≪g7(N)≪N1−2−5N^{1/2}\ll g_7(N)\ll N^{1-2^{-5}} is known (from g7≥g6g_7\ge g_6 and van Doorn's Theorem 9; Erdős wrote in [Er92c] that they could not get a good estimate for g7g_7); and the exponent for large kk is open. (3) The site's commentary prints figures that the 2026 paper supersedes or qualifies (side by side above); not a status matter.

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