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Problem 5 (printed pp. 224--225) opens with "an old problem of Hajnal and myself", quoted: "Is there a graph GG which contains no K4K_4 and which is not the union of ℵ0\aleph_0 graphs which are triangle free?" Erdős sets a prize for it, and records that Folkman, Nešetřil and Rödl proved that for every nn there is a graph with no K4K_4 that is not the union of nn triangle-free graphs.

The general guess (pp. 224--225). Erdős and Hajnal once thought the following might hold: if G1G_1 and G2G_2 are graphs such that for every n<ωn<\omega some graph GnG_n contains no G1G_1 but has, in every coloring of its edges by nn colors, a color class containing G2G_2, then the same holds with ℵ0\aleph_0 colors, and indeed with any infinite cardinal number of colors.

Its failure (p. 225). The guess fails for G1=C4G_1=C_4 and G2=C6G_2=C_6, and, the print adds, for G2G_2 any bipartite graph not containing C4C_4. The reasons given: Erdős and Hajnal proved that every graph with no C4C_4 is a countable union of trees, and Nešetřil and Rödl proved that for every nn there is a graph with no C4C_4 that is not the union of nn graphs with no C6C_6. The print then asks for which G1G_1 and G2G_2 the original guess holds, calls G1=K4G_1=K_4, G2=K3G_2=K_3 the most interesting case, and says the Nešetřil--Rödl paper would soon appear in Trans. Amer. Math. Soc.

Source. P. Erdős, Some problems on finite and infinite graphs, Logic and Combinatorics (Arcata, Calif., 1985), Contemp. Math. 65, Amer. Math. Soc. (1987), 223--228; Problem 5, pp. 224--225, PDF pp. 2--3 of the Rényi archive's scan (printed p. nn = PDF p. n−222n-222), read on the rendered page images. The edition read is identified in the source digest.

Read depth. Claims checked: the item was read clause by clause on the page images. The results it reports are cited without proof and were not checked here.

Proof pointer

None in the source. The finite two-color case is Folkman's Theorem 1 with k1=k2=3k_1=k_2=3, paged at Theorem 1.

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None.

Bears on

  • Problem 595: the opening question is this problem's question; a finite graph is always a finite union of triangle-free graphs (single edges), so the site's word "infinite" adds nothing. The paper records the finite analogue and no result on the question.
  • Problem 1174: a graph is the union of ℵ0\aleph_0 triangle-free graphs exactly when its edges can be colored with countably many colors without a monochromatic triangle, so the opening question is the first question of this problem. The paper records no result on it.
  • Problem 596: this problem's class consists of the pairs for which the guess fails with ℵ0\aleph_0 colors, so the question for which G1G_1, G2G_2 the guess holds (with ℵ0\aleph_0 colors and with every infinite cardinal number of colors) asks for pairs outside that class; restricted to ℵ0\aleph_0 colors, it asks for the complement of the class. The C4C_4, C6C_6 paragraph records the pair that the claim page Nešetřil–Rödl 1987 holds. The paper records no characterization.