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conjecture_p127: The Erdős–Moser conjecture that Stearns's lower bound is the exact value of the largest guaranteed transitive subtournament, stated in 1964 as something the authors "have been unable to disprove"; it first fails at n = 14 (Reid and Parker's 1970 theorem) and fails for infinitely many n, though the formula holds again for 16 <= n <= 27 and n = 32, 33.

main_theorem: Erdős and Moser's main result that every majority preference pattern on n candidates, ties permitted, is realized by at most c_1 n/log n voters, with Stearns's lower bound that some pattern needs more than c_2 n/log n.

theorem_1: Erdős and Moser's 1964 two-sided bound on the largest transitive subtournament every tournament on n vertices must contain, the lower bound Stearns's greedy argument and the upper bound a count of tournaments.


P. Erdős and L. Moser, On the representation of directed graphs as unions of orderings, Magyar Tud. Akad. Mat. Kutató Int. Közl. 9 (1964), 125--132 (MR 29 #5756; Zbl 136,449). Written while Erdős was visiting the University of Alberta (footnote, p. 125).

The copy read for this card is the Rényi archive scan (OmniPage, 8 pages), printed pp. 125--132 = PDF pp. 1--8. The statements below were read on the rendered page images of printed pp. 125--127. No notice is printed in the scan (pp. 125--126 and 131--132 carry no copyright or license line); the hosting archive's site footer speaks for the site, not the paper (https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/, read 2026-10-02, prints "(C) 2005-2007 All rights reserved. All material on this site is for scientifics purposes only."); the institute's former series has no article pages or DOIs, so the publisher's page was not consulted and no Crossref license is recorded; the term is unstated.

Read status: claims checked for the introduction's summary (p. 125), Stearns's argument and the counting argument (p. 126), Theorem 1, the remark f(7)=3f(7)=3 and the conjecture paragraph (p. 127), each read clause by clause on the page image on 2026-09-18; the two proofs of Theorem 1 were read in full (each is a paragraph) and not checked in detail; the statements of Lemmas 1--6 and the course of the proof of the estimate of m(n)m(n) (pp. 127--132) were read on the page images, and their proofs were not checked; the main estimate's display (p. 126) and its restatements (pp. 125, 130 and 132) were read clause by clause on 2026-10-08, its proof read for structure, and the counting proof of its lower half followed.

Contents

  • Introduction (p. 125): an m×nm\times n RR-matrix has rows that are permutations of 1,…,n1,\ldots,n; its oriented graph has i→ji\to j when ii precedes jj in a majority of rows. m(n)m(n) is the least mm such that every oriented graph on nn vertices arises this way; the paper shows m(n)≤c1n/log⁡nm(n)\le c_1n/\log n, and Stearns [2] had shown m(n)>c2n/log⁡nm(n)>c_2n/\log n (voters and candidates: every preference pattern, ties permitted, is achieved by at most c1n/log⁡nc_1n/\log n voters); see main_theorem. Section 1 treats "the largest number f(n)f(n) such that every oriented graph on nn vertices in which every pair of distinct vertices is jointed [sic] by a directed edge has at least one subgraph of f(n)f(n) vertices in which the orientation is transitive, i.e. in which i→ji\to j and j→kj\to k implies i→ki\to k. Our result here is that f(n)≤2[log⁡2n]+1f(n)\le2[\log_2n]+1. Stearns has shown that f(n)≥[log⁡2n]+1f(n)\ge[\log_2n]+1."
  • Section 1 (pp. 126--127). Stearns's argument sketched "for the sake of completeness": order the vertices by out-degree w(1)≥⋯≥w(n)w(1)\ge\cdots\ge w(n), so w(1)≥(n−1)/2w(1)\ge(n-1)/2; place vertex 1 first and induct in its out-neighborhood, obtaining a transitive subset of [log⁡2((n−1)/2)]+1[\log_2((n-1)/2)]+1 vertices there. The counting argument: if every tournament on nn vertices has a transitive kk-set then (nk)k! 2(n2)−(k2)≥2(n2)\binom nkk!\,2^{\binom n2-\binom k2}\ge2^{\binom n2}, and (nk)≤nk/k!\binom nk\le n^k/k! gives k≤2log⁡n/log⁡2+1k\le2\log n/\log2+1. Theorem 1 (p. 127): [log⁡2n]+1≤f(n)≤2[log⁡2n]+1[\log_2n]+1\le f(n)\le2[\log_2n]+1. "We remark that f(7)=3f(7)=3": the lower bound from the left inequality, the upper bound from the directed graph on 1,…,71,\ldots,7 with i→ji\to j iff i−ji-j is a quadratic residue mod 77. "We would like to call the attention of the reader to the fact that we have been unable to disprove the conjecture that f(n)=[log⁡2n]+1f(n)=[\log_2n]+1. In particular we cannot decide if f(15)=4f(15)=4." See theorem_1 and conjecture_p127.
  • Section 2 (pp. 127--132; the introduction announces a § 3, but no § 3 heading is printed, and the main proof begins on p. 130): Lemmas 1 and 2 (p. 127) represent by a two-row RR-matrix a bipartite unidirected graph (levels AA and BB, with an edge from each vertex of AA to each vertex of BB and no other edges) on pp vertices and a bilevel graph (a disjoint union of such graphs) on nn vertices. Lemma 3 (p. 128): if GG has nn vertices and ee edges with n2/22r+4<e≤n2/22r+1n^2/2^{2r+4}<e\le n^2/2^{2r+1} and $\log n/(20r+1)\ge1$, then GG contains a bipartite unidirected subgraph whose levels AA and BB have [n][\sqrt n] and [log⁡n/(20r+1)][\log n/(20r+1)] vertices, each vertex of AA having valence at most 16n/2r16n/2^r in GG. Lemmas 4--6 (pp. 129--130) find bilevel subgraphs with many edges: at least $n\log n/((r+1)2^{r+15})$ when n>n0n>n_0, n2/22r+3<e≤n2/22r+1n^2/2^{2r+3}<e\le n^2/2^{2r+1} and r<10log⁡log⁡nr<10\log\log n (Lemma 4); [(m−1)/4][(m-1)/4] in a connected graph on mm vertices (Lemma 5); at least e/8\sqrt e/8 in any graph with ee edges (Lemma 6). Pages 130--132 prove m(n)≤c1n/log⁡nm(n)\le c_1n/\log n by removing a bilevel subgraph with the most edges at each step (Lemma 4 bounds the number of steps) and finishing with Lemma 6, and give a counting proof of m(n)>c2n/log⁡nm(n)>c_2n/\log n; the two-sided estimate is announced on p. 126. The paper closes (p. 132) with unsolved problems: whether m(n)log⁡n/nm(n)\log n/n tends to a limit, the authors noting that they cannot even prove that its upper limit (printed lim⁡‾\overline{\lim}) exceeds (log⁡3)/2(\log3)/2; and good estimates for the largest s=s(e)s=s(e) such that every ordinary graph with ee edges contains a bilevel (undirected) graph with ss edges, for which they state, without proof, s>celog⁡es>c\sqrt e\log e.

Compiled scope

Printed pp. 125--127 were read on the page images for the statements above; pp. 128--132 were read for the statements in the Section 2 entry and for the main estimate. No proof was checked beyond the counting proof of the main estimate's lower half, and nothing here is independently reviewed.

The conjecture f(n)=[log⁡2n]+1f(n)=[\log_2n]+1 of p. 127 was disproved by Reid and Parker (J. Combinatorial Theory 9 (1970), 225--238), who showed that every tournament on 1414 vertices contains a transitive subtournament on 55 vertices; that paper is filed as reid_parker_1970_disproof_conjecture_erdos_moser_tournaments, and the disproof is its Theorem 4 on printed p. 235, paged on theorem_4, which records the statement and its one-paragraph proof read on the page image and the case analysis behind them read for structure only. The same disproof is also quoted by the filed papers of Ihringer, Rajendraprasad and Weinert (p. 2), Neiman, Mackey and Heule (p. 2) and McCarthy and Monico (p. 7), and by the site.

Source: https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/1964-22.pdf.

Bears on. #1216: the site's key ErMo64, p. 127. Theorem 1 (printed p. 127 = PDF p. 3, page image) is the origin's two-sided bound [log⁡2n]+1≤f(n)≤2[log⁡2n]+1[\log_2n]+1\le f(n)\le2[\log_2n]+1; the same page states the conjecture f(n)=[log⁡2n]+1f(n)=[\log_2n]+1 that the problem asks about, the value f(7)=3f(7)=3 with the quadratic-residue tournament, and the undecided case f(15)=4f(15)=4 (now known to be false: f(15)=5f(15)=5 by Reid and Parker's Theorem 4, printed p. 235, whose p. 236 lists f(n)=5f(n)=5 for 14≤n≤2314\le n\le23); p. 126 (PDF p. 2) reproduces Stearns's argument for the lower bound and gives the counting argument for the upper bound. #112: the tournament column of k(n,m)k(n,m); Theorem 1 gives 2(m−1)/2≤k(2,m)≤2m−12^{(m-1)/2}\le k(2,m)\le2^{m-1} in that problem's letters, as Ihringer, Rajendraprasad and Weinert record (p. 2).

Results.

  • Main result (p. 126, proved pp. 130--132): c1n/log⁡n>m(n)>c2n/log⁡nc_1n/\log n>m(n)>c_2n/\log n; no problem page cites it.
  • Theorem 1 (p. 127): [log⁡2n]+1≤f(n)≤2[log⁡2n]+1[\log_2n]+1\le f(n)\le2[\log_2n]+1.
  • Conjecture (p. 127): f(n)=[log⁡2n]+1f(n)=[\log_2n]+1, which the authors could not disprove; f(7)=3f(7)=3; f(15)=4f(15)=4 undecided.

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