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Statement

The paper restates the results of the section in terms of a function it says Erdős introduced in its reference [11], defined as printed on p. 16 (arXiv v1; page image): "Denote by F(k)(N,α)F^{(k)}(N,\alpha) the largest integer for which it is possible to split the kk-tuples of a NN-element set SS into two classes so that for every X⊂SX\subset S with ∣X∣≥F(k)(N,α)|X|\ge F^{(k)}(N,\alpha), each class contains more than α(∣X∣k)\alpha\binom{|X|}{k} kk-tuples of XX. Note that F(k)(N,0)F^{(k)}(N,0) is essentially the inverse function of the usual Ramsey function rk(n,n)r_k(n,n). It is easy to show that for 0≤α<1/20\le\alpha<1/2,

c(α)log⁡N<F(2)(N,α)<c′(α)log⁡N.c(\alpha)\log N<F^{(2)}(N,\alpha)<c'(\alpha)\log N.

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The paper's [11] is Erdős's 1990 chapter (problem_p21), which defines the function as the smallest integer for which such a split is possible, the wording the site's Problem 563 uses. An observation made here: the property "some split has every class dense on every XX with ∣X∣≥m|X|\ge m" is preserved when mm increases, so the admissible thresholds mm form an up-set, the smallest of them is the meaningful quantity, and "largest" cannot be read as printed (every m>Nm>N is admissible vacuously). This page records the paper's wording as printed and does not equate the two definitions silently; the bound displayed is the same as Erdős's display (29) for k=2k=2 classes, and neither source proves it.

Source. D. Conlon, J. Fox and B. Sudakov, Hypergraph Ramsey numbers, arXiv:0808.3760v1, Section 6.2, p. 16 (J. Amer. Math. Soc. 23 (2010), 247--266, not compared); read on the page image of the preprint. No file of either version is held.

Read depth. Claims checked: the definition and the display were read clause by clause on the page image. No proof is given in the source ("It is easy to show"); none is reconstructed here.

Proof pointer

None in the source. The surrounding section deduces the hypergraph statement Theorem 6.2 from Theorem 6.3 (p. 17); that argument does not concern the graph bound above.

Dependencies

None stated.

Bears on

  • Problem 563: the display is the known two-sided bound F(n,α)≍αlog⁡nF(n,\alpha)\asymp_\alpha\log n the site's commentary quotes; the asymptotic F(n,α)∼cαlog⁡nF(n,\alpha)\sim c_\alpha\log n the problem asks for is not addressed in the paper.
  • Problem 162: the site's wording prints "largest", as this paper does, with the range 0≤α≤1/20\le\alpha\le1/2; corrected to "smallest" and 0≤α<1/20\le\alpha<1/2, its question is that of Problem 563. The display is the known two-sided bound, and the asymptotic the problem asks for is not addressed in the paper.