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section_10: The 1959 definition of the least multiplier f(n) such that f(n) times the largest of n given integers consecutive integers always hold distinct multiples of all of them, with the lower bound from Erdős's theorem that few integers have a divisor in (n, 2n].

section_11: The 1959 lower bound behind Problem 650: from any run of twice the largest of n given integers consecutive integers one can pick at least root n integers, each a multiple of a different given integer; and the iteration that turns this into an upper bound on the interval-length function.

section_12: The 1959 upper bound on the interval-length function: iterating the root-n selection over dyadic ranges shows that a constant times root n times the largest given integer consecutive integers always suffice.


P. Erdős, J. Surányi: Megjegyzések egy versenyfeladathoz (Remarks to a problem = Bemerkungen zu einer Aufgabe eines mathematischen Wettbewerbs, in Hungarian, with Russian and German summaries), Mat. Lapok 10 (1959), 39--48 (MR 26 #2388; Zentralblatt 93,257).

Written in Hungarian with Russian and German summaries, this paper takes up a question of Tibor Gallai generalizing the fact that the product of k consecutive integers is divisible by k!. In the notation of the summaries on pp.47-48, given 0 < a_1 < ... < a_n and any a_n consecutive integers, how many of those integers must be selected so that their product is divisible by a_1...a_n? The interval length is fixed at a_n.

Section 1, p.39, states the two- and three-input questions from Problem 6 of the 1954 Schweitzer competition: for a < b any b consecutive integers contain two whose product is divisible by ab, but for a < b < c the analogous statement with three selections from c consecutive integers fails. The printed condition in statement a) is a > b, a misprint; a < b is restored here and also appears in Erdős (1992), p.34. The three-input counterexample is a = 7·11, b = 7·13, c = 11·13 with the interval 5935 <= x <= 6077. Section 6, Theorem II, p.42, shows that four selections always suffice: a subset of size at most four has product divisible by abc. Section 9, p.44, and the summaries on pp.47-48 state that, for every ε > 0 and sufficiently large n, more than (2-ε)n selections from the fixed a_n-element interval can be needed, and ask whether still worse cases occur.

For the separate interval-length function f(n), the least number such that from any f(n)·a_n consecutive integers one can assign to each a_i a distinct multiple of it, they prove c(log n)^α < f(n) < c'·sqrt(n) (Sections 11 and 12 carry out the upper-bound estimate by a greedy selection argument iterated over dyadic ranges), and they also show that 2a_n consecutive integers always contain at least sqrt(n) pairwise distinct multiples of distinct a_i. The summaries state that neither bound looks sharp. The paper is the source for problems 650, 708 and 709, which concern exactly these selection-of-multiples questions from intervals of consecutive integers.

Locators for the f(n) material, read on the page images (printed p. nn is PDF p. n−38n-38 of the 10-page OmniPage Pro scan read for this card, checked on pp. 44--48): Section 10, printed p. 45 (PDF p. 7), defines f(n) for positive integers a_1 < ... < a_n, notes 2 <= f(n) <= n and proves the lower bound f(n) >= c(log n)^α from display (4), a bound cited to Erdős 1935 (the paper's [2]) on the integers with a divisor in (n, 2n] (the print's "nincs", no divisor, is a slip: the proof bounds the integers that have such a divisor); Section 11, pp. 45--46 (PDF pp. 7--8), proves that any 2a_n consecutive integers contain at least sqrt(n) distinct multiples of distinct a_i and iterates the selection; Section 12, pp. 46--47 (PDF pp. 8--9), bounds the number of steps and concludes f(n) <= C'·sqrt(n), adding that both bounds look very crude; the German summary, p. 48 (PDF p. 10), restates c(log n)^α < f(n) < c'·sqrt(n) and the sqrt(n) selection. Read status for these statements: claims checked on the page images (Hungarian, with the German summary as a check); the short proofs of Sections 10--12 were read through and not independently reviewed.

Source: https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/1959-07.pdf. No notice is printed on the scan's first or last pages; the hosting archive's site footer speaks for the site, not the paper (https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/, prints "(C) 2005-2007 All rights reserved. All material on this site is for scientifics purposes only."); Matematikai Lapok has no publisher page or DOI for this edition, so the publisher's page was not consulted and no Crossref license is recorded; the term is unstated.

Selection convention and reading scope. Section 1, p.39, fixes the reservoir length at the largest given input and varies the selected count; the summaries on pp.47-48 use the notation 0 < a_1 < ... < a_n. Theorem II in section 6, p.42, gives an upper bound of four on that count; it does not say that selecting more than four is impossible. Section 9, p.44, and the Russian and German summaries on pp.47-48 concern the same selected count. The related f(n) above instead controls the interval length needed to assign distinct multiples. These quantities must not be interchanged.

The formulation account on Problem 708 distinguishes the site's literal exact-size requirement from an explicit at-most normalization. The latter is a source-supported interpretation, not a printed erratum, and receives no status from this digest. The 1992 paper's definition uses x >= 0 and positive intervals; no equivalence with arbitrary consecutive intervals is asserted here.

The scan read for this card was visually checked on complete printed pages 39, 42, 44 and 47-48 on 2026-09-09 for these statements and locators. This is a bounded statement check, not a full proof reconstruction or independent proof review. The existing f(n) account is retained; its proof has not been newly assessed. No live source or current literature-status search was performed.

Bears on. #650: Section 11, pp. 45--46 (PDF pp. 7--8, page images): any 2a_n consecutive integers contain at least sqrt(n) distinct multiples of distinct a_i, the site's lower bound f(m) >= sqrt(m); #708: Section 1, p. 39, poses Gallai's selection question (its two- and three-integer cases are Problem 6 of the 1954 Schweitzer competition); Section 6, Theorem II, p. 42, shows that at most four selections suffice for three integers; Section 9, p. 44, and the summaries, pp. 47--48, show that more than (2-ε)n selections can be needed and ask whether worse cases occur; #709: Section 10, p. 45 (PDF p. 7, page image), defines the problem's f(n) and proves f(n) >= c(log n)^α; Sections 11--12, pp. 45--47 (PDF pp. 7--9), prove f(n) <= C'·sqrt(n); the summary, p. 48, states both bounds and says neither seems exact.

Results to transcribe.

  • Section 1, p.39 (two- and three-input questions): For positive integers a < b (restoring the printed a > b as explained above), among any b consecutive integers there are two whose product is divisible by ab; for a < b < c the corresponding statement for three numbers among c consecutive integers is false, with counterexample a = 7·11, b = 7·13, c = 11·13 and interval 5935 <= x <= 6077. Theorem II (section 6, p.42) proves that four selections always suffice to obtain a product divisible by abc.
  • Lower bound on required selections (section 9, p.44; summaries, pp.47-48): For every ε > 0 and all sufficiently large n, there are a_1 < ... < a_n and an interval of a_n consecutive integers from which more than (2-ε)n elements must be selected to obtain a product divisible by a_1...a_n. The source asks whether still worse selection requirements occur.
  • Bounds for f(n) (Section 10, p. 45, and Section 12, pp. 46-47): For f(n) the least number such that from any f(n)·a_n consecutive integers one can pick a distinct multiple of each a_i, c(log n)^α < f(n) < c'·sqrt(n) for suitable constants c, c', α; neither bound is believed sharp.
  • Section 12 (upper-bound estimate, pp. 46-47): The upper bound f(n) <= C'·sqrt(n) follows by repeatedly choosing at least sqrt(n_r) multiples from each subinterval of length 2a_n and summing the resulting recursion n_{r+1} = n_r
    • sqrt(n_r) over dyadic ranges.
  • Lower bound on selectable multiples (Section 11, pp. 45-46): From any 2a_n consecutive integers one can select at least sqrt(n) pairwise distinct multiples of distinct a_i; the authors suspect sqrt(n) is not the exact lower bound.

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