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theorem_1_3: The first power-saving bound for the Brown-Erdős-Sós problem on 3-uniform hypergraphs near the Sárközy-Selkow threshold, at the cost of the additive constant 38.


O. Janzer, A. Methuku, A. Milojević and B. Sudakov, Power saving for the Brown-Erdős-Sós problem, Discrete Analysis 2025:5, 16 pp., doi:10.19086/da.138191 (received 26 November 2023, published 10 July 2025 per the article's title page; the Crossref record was read). Discrete Analysis is a refereed journal.

Retained artifact. The folder-name PDF is the journal's typeset article as posted to arXiv: arXiv:2311.12765v2 (9 July 2025; v1 21 November 2023; the arXiv record read gives the journal reference "Discrete Analysis, 2025:5, 16 pp"), 16 pages with a text layer and the running foot "Discrete Analysis, 2025:5, 16pp." on every page; printed and PDF pages agree. Provenance: retained from the repository's survey download set of September 2026 (the download URL was not recorded; the file carries the arXiv stamp); 325,673 bytes. The arXiv record (https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.12765, read 2026-10-02) names the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license.

Read status: claims checked for Theorem 1.3 (p. 3), Conjecture 1.1 and Theorem 1.2 (p. 2) and the introduction's account of the earlier bounds (pp. 2-3), read clause by clause on the page images of pp. 1-3 and in the text layer; the proof overview (Section 1.1, pp. 3-4) was read for structure only and the proof (Sections 2-4) was not read.

Contents

  • Setting (pp. 1-2): a (v,e)(v,e)-configuration is a hypergraph having at least ee edges on at most vv vertices; f(n,v,e)f(n,v,e) is the largest edge count of a 3-uniform hypergraph on nn vertices containing no (v,e)(v,e)-configuration. The paper notes that for e=(vr)e=\binom vr the rr-uniform version is the Turán problem for Kv(r)K^{(r)}_v, "a notoriously difficult open problem for r>2r>2".
  • Conjecture 1.1 (Brown-Erdős-Sós, p. 2): for every e≥3e\ge3, f(n,e+3,e)=o(n2)f(n,e+3,e)=o(n^2). The paper records that e=3e=3 is the only resolved case (the (6,3)(6,3)-theorem of Ruzsa and Szemerédi), and that the Ruzsa-Szemerédi construction gives f(n,6,3)≥n2−o(1)f(n,6,3)\ge n^{2-o(1)}, hence f(n,7,4)≥n2−o(1)f(n,7,4)\ge n^{2-o(1)} and f(n,8,5)≥n2−o(1)f(n,8,5)\ge n^{2-o(1)} since every (7,4)(7,4)- and (8,5)(8,5)-configuration contains a (6,3)(6,3)-configuration; matching n2−o(1)n^{2-o(1)} lower bounds for f(n,10,7)f(n,10,7) and f(n,11,8)f(n,11,8) are credited to Ge and Shangguan.
  • Theorem 1.2 (Sárközy and Selkow, quoted p. 2): for every e≥3e\ge3, f(n,e+⌊log⁡2e⌋+2,e)=o(n2)f(n,e+\lfloor\log_2e\rfloor+2,e)=o(n^2); improved for e=10e=10 by Solymosi and Solymosi (f(n,14,10)=o(n2)f(n,14,10)=o(n^2)) and asymptotically by Conlon, Gishboliner, Levanzov and Shapira (f(n,e+O(log⁡e/log⁡log⁡e),e)=o(n2)f(n,e+O(\log e/\log\log e),e)=o(n^2)), all through regularity lemmas, so "barely below quadratic".
  • The Gowers-Long conjecture (p. 2): f(n,e+4,e)=O(n2−ε)f(n,e+4,e)=O(n^{2-\varepsilon}) for all e≥3e\ge3 and some ε=ε(e)>0\varepsilon=\varepsilon(e)>0; the question of the smallest d(e)d(e) with f(n,e+d(e),e)=O(n2−ε)f(n,e+d(e),e)=O(n^{2-\varepsilon}).
  • Theorem 1.3 (p. 3): for every e≥3e\ge3 there is ε>0\varepsilon>0 with f(n,e+⌊log⁡2e⌋+38,e)=O(n2−ε)f(n,e+\lfloor\log_2e\rfloor+38,e)=O(n^{2-\varepsilon}). The remark after it: the weaker f(n,e+O(log⁡2e),e)=O(n2−ε)f(n,e+O(\log_2e),e)=O(n^{2-\varepsilon}) was proved independently by Conlon, by Gishboliner, Levanzov and Shapira, and by Gao and others; an additive constant is necessary at e=3e=3 because of the Ruzsa-Szemerédi construction; the constant 38 comes from a final cleaning step. Paged at theorem_1_3.
  • Method (Section 1.1, read for structure): deficiency Δ(F)=v(F)−e(F)\Delta(F)=v(F)-e(F); a toy argument gluing two (8,4)(8,4)-configurations into a (13,8)(13,8)-configuration in a hypergraph with ω(n7/4)\omega(n^{7/4}) edges.

Compiled scope

Pages 1-3 were read on the page images and in the text layer; Section 1.1 for structure; Sections 2-4 not read. Nothing here is independently reviewed.

Bears on. #1157: for r=3r=3 and k=s+⌊log⁡2s⌋+38k=s+\lfloor\log_2s\rfloor+38 vertices (the site's letters), the family F\mathcal F has ex3(n,F)=O(n2−ε)\mathrm{ex}_3(n,\mathcal F)=O(n^{2-\varepsilon}), the first power saving near the Sárközy-Selkow threshold; the Brown-Erdős-Sós conjecture itself (k=s+3k=s+3) stays open for every s≥4s\ge4 per the paper's own account. #716: p. 2 (text layer), the "(6, 3)-theorem" of Ruzsa and Szemerédi, f(n,6,3)=o(n2)f(n,6,3)=o(n^2), recorded as the case e=3e=3 of Conjecture 1.1 and the only resolved instance, with the n2−o(1)n^{2-o(1)} lower bound (p. 2) showing that no power saving is possible there; the problem's question, answered by that cited theorem and not by this paper. #1178: for r=3r=3 the upper bound d3(e)≤e+3d_3(e)\le e+3 in the problem's conjecture d3(e)=e+3d_3(e)=e+3 is Conjecture 1.1 (p. 2); Theorem 1.2 (Sárközy--Selkow, p. 2) gives d3(e)≤e+⌊log⁡2e⌋+2d_3(e)\le e+\lfloor\log_2e\rfloor+2 and Theorem 1.3 (p. 3) the same with 3838 in place of 22 and a power saving; the paper treats 33-uniform hypergraphs only. The site's page #1076 (k−2k-2 edges on kk vertices) is not addressed in the pages read.