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conjecture_p144: Bollobás and Erdős's 1962 remark that k_r(n) is undetermined for r > 3, their guess k_4(3n+1) = 6n+1, and the extremal example of n tetrahedra with a single common vertex, the graph K_1 + nK_3; the m = 4 instance of the conjecture of Problem 915 with its extremal graph in the form K_1 + nK_{m-1}.

question_p144: Bollobás and Erdős's 1962 question for the least number h_3(n) of edges forcing a cycle together with a vertex outside it adjacent to three of its vertices, a special complete topological quadrilateral, with the remark that h_3(n) = 2n−2 is not excluded; the question of Problem 916 in its earliest filed form, and the definition of h_r(n) with the theorem h_2(n) = f(n).

theorem_p144: Bollobás and Erdős's 1962 determination of the least number of edges forcing two vertices joined by three internally disjoint paths, derived from Bártfai's even-cycle proof and matched by n triangles sharing a vertex; the m = 3 case of Problem 915 under the vertex-disjoint reading.


B. Bollobás, P. Erdős: Gráfelméleti szélső értékekre vonatkozó problémákról (Extremal problems in graph theory, in Hungarian), Mat. Lapok 13 (1962), 143--152 (MR 26 #3036; Zentralblatt 117,412).

This Hungarian-language paper (read as page images) studies k_r(n), the least number of edges forcing an n-vertex graph to contain two vertices x_1, x_2 joined by r pairwise internally disjoint paths, a question the authors attribute to Erdos and Gallai and place beside Turan's extremal problem. Setting f(2n) = 3n - 1 and f(2n+1) = 3n + 1, they note that k_3(n) = f(n) is easy: Bartfai's short proof that every graph with f(n) edges contains an even cycle also gives two vertices joined by three independent paths, and triangles sharing one vertex (one of them cut to an edge when the vertex count is even) show that f(n) - 1 edges do not suffice. They show only the bound k_4(3n+1) > 6n, conjecturing that the truth may be k_4(3n+1) = 6n + 1, with the extremal example given by n tetrahedra sharing a single vertex and otherwise disjoint. They then turn to topological complete subgraphs: every graph with n vertices and n edges contains a topological triangle, Dirac proved every graph with 2n - 2 edges contains a topological K_4 while some graph with 2n - 3 edges does not, and the analog for topological K_5 is unknown -- the authors note that a maximal planar graph has 3n - 6 edges and no topological K_5, and raise the possibility that every graph with 3n - 5 edges contains one. The paper then asks for h_3(n), the least edge count forcing a cycle K together with a vertex x_0 off it sending at least three edges to K. This configuration is a special topological K_4: every K_4 is one, and every one is a topological K_4. The question therefore sits between Turan's exact bound for K_4 itself, l = (n^2 - r^2)/3 + binomial(r,2) + 1 with n = 3t + r, 0 <= r < 3, and Dirac's bound 2n - 2 for a topological K_4. The authors cannot determine h_3(n) and say that h_3(n) = 2n - 2 is not excluded. The paper's main theorem (the Tétel of p. 145) is h_2(n) = f(n) for the analogous function with two edges to the cycle, a conjecture of Pósa (an oral communication, the paper's [5]): every graph with n >= 4 vertices and f(n) edges (the range stated in the Russian and German summaries, p. 152) contains a cycle and a vertex off it joined to two of its vertices. The bound h_2(n) >= f(n) follows at once from k_3(n) = f(n), and the authors prove the theorem twice by induction (pp. 145--148 and 149--151); the two summaries name only this theorem. The bearing on problem 915 is the k_r(n) function: the paper supplies the exact value for r = 3 and the lower bound plus conjectured exact value for r = 4.

Source: https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/1962-04.pdf.

The copy read for this card is the Rényi archive's scan of the ten printed pages 143--152 (printed p. nn = PDF p. n−142n-142) with an OCR text layer that garbles the Hungarian and the formulas; the statements below were read on the rendered page images, and the translations are this card's. No notice is printed in the scan (pp. 143–144 and 151–152 read); Matematikai Lapok has no publisher page or DOI for the 1962 volume, so none was consulted; the hosting archive's site footer speaks for the site, not the paper, and prints only "(C) 2005-2007 All rights reserved. All material on this site is for scientifics purposes only." (https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/); the term is unstated.

Read status: claims checked for the definition of kr(n)k_r(n) and the theorem k3(n)=f(n)k_3(n)=f(n) with f(2n)=3n−1f(2n)=3n-1, f(2n+1)=3n+1f(2n+1)=3n+1 (printed pp. 143--144), for the conjecture k4(3n+1)=6n+1k_4(3n+1)=6n+1 with its example (p. 144), for the question on h3(n)h_3(n) with the remark that h3(n)=2n−2h_3(n)=2n-2 is not excluded (pp. 144--145) and for the theorem h2(n)=f(n)h_2(n)=f(n) as a statement (p. 145), each read clause by clause on the page images; the two proofs of h2(n)=f(n)h_2(n)=f(n) (pp. 145--148 and 149--151) were not read. Paged at theorem_p144, conjecture_p144 and question_p144.

Bears on. #915: the site's key BoEr62; printed pp. 143--144 (PDF pp. 1--2, page images): kr(n)k_r(n) is defined as the least number of lines forcing two points x1,x2x_1,x_2 joined by rr paths with no common point other than x1x_1 and x2x_2, a question the paper attributes to Erdős and Gallai, and the theorem k3(n)=f(n)k_3(n)=f(n), with f(2n)=3n−1f(2n)=3n-1 and f(2n+1)=3n+1f(2n+1)=3n+1, is derived from Bártfai's proof (paged at theorem_p144); p. 144: the authors could not determine kr(n)k_r(n) for r>3r>3 and suggest that perhaps k4(3n+1)=6n+1k_4(3n+1)=6n+1, with nn tetrahedra sharing a single point showing k4(3n+1)>6nk_4(3n+1)>6n (paged at conjecture_p144), the extremal graph K1+nK3K_1+nK_3 of the problem's form at m=4m=4; #916: not a site key; printed pp. 144--145 (PDF pp. 2--3, page images): the question of the least h3(n)h_3(n) such that every graph with nn points and h3(n)h_3(n) lines contains a cycle KK and a point x0x_0 off it sending at least three lines to points of KK, which the paper calls again a special complete topological quadrilateral, with the remark that h3(n)h_3(n) cannot yet be determined and that h3(n)=2n−2h_3(n)=2n-2 is not excluded, the problem's question five years before the 1967 seminar paper (paged at question_p144).

Results to transcribe.

  • k_3 result: With f(2n) = 3n - 1 and f(2n+1) = 3n + 1, k_3(n) = f(n): f(n) edges on n vertices force two vertices joined by three pairwise internally disjoint paths, and this is sharp.
  • h_2 theorem (Pósa's conjecture): h_2(n) = f(n) for n >= 4, so f(n) edges on n vertices force a cycle and a vertex off it joined to two of its vertices; proved twice by induction (pp. 145--148 and 149--151).
  • k_4 bound: k_4(3n+1) > 6n, with the conjecture that k_4(3n+1) = 6n + 1; the extremal construction is n tetrahedra glued at a single common vertex.
  • Topological K_5 question: Since a maximal planar graph on n vertices has 3n - 6 edges and contains no topological K_5, the authors ask whether every n-vertex graph with 3n - 5 edges contains a topological K_5 (the analog of Dirac's 2n - 2 bound for topological K_4).

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