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inequality_1: Erdős and Guy's counting bound that k lattice points of the n by n grid with all mutual distances distinct satisfy k choose 2 at most (n+1 choose 2) minus 1, so k is at most n, with k = n attained for every n from 2 to 7.

inequality_2: Erdős and Guy's upper bound k < c_3 n (log n)^{-1/4} for k lattice points of the n by n grid with all mutual distances distinct, from Landau's count of sums of two squares, with their heuristic conjecture (3) that k < c_4 n^{2/3} (log n)^{1/6}.

inequality_4: Erdős and Guy's greedy construction of more than n^{2/3-eps} lattice points of the n by n grid with all mutual distances distinct, for every eps > 0 and sufficiently large n, avoiding circles, lines of small slope and perpendicular bisectors of earlier points.

inequality_7: Erdős and Guy's upper bound k < c_7 d^{1/2} n for lattice points in d dimensions, d at least 3, with all mutual distances distinct, from the theorems on sums of three or four squares, with their heuristic conjecture (8) that k < c_8 d^{2/3} n^{2/3} (log n)^{1/3}.


P. Erdős, R. K. Guy: Distinct distances between lattice points, Elem. Math. 25 (1970), 121--123; MR 43 #7406; Zentralblatt 222.10053. No notice is printed (the text layer's "(c)" on p. 122 is a list label); the hosting archive's site footer "(C) 2005-2007 All rights reserved. All material on this site is for scientifics purposes only." (https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/, read 2026-10-02) speaks for the site, not the paper; the publisher's page was not consulted and no Crossref license is recorded; the term is unstated.

The paper asks for the maximum number k of lattice points (x_i,y_i) with 0<x_i,y_i<=n whose pairwise distances are all distinct. Counting distances against pairs of coordinate differences gives k choose 2 <= (n+1 choose 2) - 1 (eq. 1), so k <= n, a bound attained for 2<=n<=7 by listed examples and, the paper indicates without proof, not attainable for n > 15 because numbers can be sums of two squares in more than one way; using Landau's theorem that the count of integers below x expressible as a sum of two squares is asymptotically c_1 x (log x)^{-1/2}, the authors improve this to the upper bound k < c_3 n (log n)^{-1/4} (eq. 2), and offer the heuristic conjecture k < c_4 n^{2/3}(log n)^{1/6} (eq. 3). The lower bound k > n^{2/3-eps} for every eps > 0 and large n (eq. 4) comes from a greedy construction that adds points avoiding the circles through earlier points, the lines of small slope b/a with |a|,|b| < n^{1/3}, and the perpendicular bisectors of earlier pairs, with the exclusion counts (using d(n) < n^{c/loglog n}) summing to less than n^2 whenever k <= n^{2/3-eps}. In d>=3 dimensions the three- and four-square theorems take the place of Landau's, giving k < c_7 d^{1/2} n (eq. 7) with heuristic conjecture k < c_8 d^{2/3} n^{2/3}(log n)^{1/3} (eq. 8), and the analogous sphere-and-hyperplane construction yields the same n^{2/3-eps} lower bound; in one dimension k lies between n^{1/2}(1-eps) and n^{1/2}+n^{1/4}+1 (eqs. 5-6), the lower bound from Singer's perfect difference sets and the upper bound quoted from Erdős-Turán and Lindström. The paper closes (pp. 122-123) by asking for maximal distinct-distance configurations with few points, whether O(n^{1/2}) points suffice (O(n^{1/3}) in one dimension), and by restating, from Erdős's 1957 Mat. Lapok paper, the question of how many of any n points in the plane, or in d dimensions, can be chosen with all distances distinct.

Source: https://users.renyi.hu/~p_erdos/1970-03.pdf.

Bears on. #1208: the paper restates the problem's question on p. 123 and does not answer it. Applied to the N = n^2 points of the grid, (2) gives F_2(n^2) < c_3 n (log n)^{-1/4}, and applied to the N = n^d lattice points in d >= 3 dimensions, (7) gives F_d(n^d) < c_7 d^{1/2} n; these are upper bounds only, which the paper does not state in terms of F_d. The lower bound (4) is for the grid alone and gives no lower bound for F_d.

Results.

  • Inequality (1), p. 121: k choose 2 <= (n+1 choose 2) - 1, so k <= n, attained for 2 <= n <= 7 by listed configurations; the remark that it cannot be attained for n > 15 is unproved.
  • Inequality (2), p. 121: k < c_3 n (log n)^{-1/4}, from Landau's theorem, with the heuristic conjecture (3) k < c_4 n^{2/3}(log n)^{1/6}, which the paper says lacks conviction.
  • Inequality (4), p. 121, proved p. 122: k > n^{2/3-eps} for any eps > 0 and sufficiently large n, by a greedy construction avoiding circles, lines of small slope and perpendicular bisectors.
  • Inequality (7), p. 122: in d >= 3 dimensions k < c_7 d^{1/2} n, from the theorems on sums of three or four squares, with the heuristic conjecture (8) k < c_8 d^{2/3} n^{2/3}(log n)^{1/3} and the same lower bound (4).

The one-dimensional bounds (5) and (6) (p. 122) are quoted results and have no page here. The pages are claims checked on the page images of the print, with the proof of (4) followed; nothing here is independently reviewed.

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