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Statement

Conjecture (Section 2, p. 169), posed by Croft, Purdy and Erdős. If nn points in the plane are given, then for k≤n1/2k\le n^{1/2} the number of distinct lines containing at least kk of them is less than cn2/k3cn^2/k^3. The range has no lower end in the print. Erdős reports that "This conjecture was proved by Szemerédi and Trotter [1], but the best value of cc is not known", the paper's [1] being E. Szemerédi and W. T. Trotter, Extremal problems in discrete geometry, Combinatorica 3 (1983), 381--392.

The case k=nk=\sqrt n (p. 169). The bound gives fewer than cnc\sqrt n lines containing at least n\sqrt n of the points, which Erdős contrasts with a finite geometry of n=p2+p+1n=p^2+p+1 points, with nn lines of p+1>np+1>\sqrt n points. The lattice points give nn points with 2n+22\sqrt n+2 lines containing n\sqrt n of them, which Erdős says he thought perhaps best possible; Sah showed that one can find "(3+o(n))n(3+o(n))\sqrt n" [sic] such lines, the o(n)o(n) standing where o(1)o(1) is meant. The construction appears in the same proceedings, and Erdős suggests it may give the best possible value of cc.

Source. P. Erdős, Some combinatorial and metric problems in geometry, Intuitive geometry (Siófok, 1985), Colloq. Math. Soc. János Bolyai 48, North-Holland, Amsterdam-New York, 1987, 167--177 (MR 89i:52012); Section 2, printed p. 169.

Read depth. Claims checked: the conjecture, the report of its proof and the k=nk=\sqrt n discussion were read clause by clause on the page image of p. 169. Neither the Szemerédi-Trotter proof nor Sah's construction is given in this paper.

Proof pointer

None in this paper; the proof is the cited theorem of Szemerédi and Trotter.

Dependencies

Szemerédi and Trotter, Combinatorica 3 (1983), 381--392, cited for the proof; Sah's construction in the proceedings of the same meeting.

Bears on

  • Problem 1069: the conjecture is the site's statement, with "less than cn2/k3cn^2/k^3" written as ≪n2/k3\ll n^2/k^3, and with the print's range k≤n1/2k\le n^{1/2} that has no lower end; the problem page records the corrected range 2≤k≤n1/22\le k\le n^{1/2} and the proof by Szemerédi and Trotter that Erdős reports here.