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main_theorem: Steinerberger shows that the shift-two relation for the iterates of n plus phi(n) starts exactly at a solution of phi(n) + phi(n + phi(n)) = n, and that every solution is 2^l times one of 1, 3, 5, 7, 35, 47, or 2^l(8m+7) or 2^l(6m+5) with 8m+7 a prime at least 10^10 and phi(6m+5) = 4m+4.

question_p1: The paper asks whether phi(n)/n = 2/3 + 2/(3n) has infinitely many solutions, the totient condition of its Theorem's second branch with primality dropped, and records the solutions n = 5, 35, 1295, 1679615.


Stefan Steinerberger, On an iterated arithmetic function problem of Erdős and Graham. arXiv preprint (2025). arXiv:2504.08023. The arXiv record names arXiv's non-exclusive distribution license (arXiv:2504.08023), every other right reserved.

For g(n) = n + phi(n) with iterates g_k, Erdos and Graham asked for which n one has g_{k+r}(n) = 2 g_k(n) for all large k, knowing only n = 10 and n = 94 for r = 2. Steinerberger's single main Theorem shows the case r = 2 is equivalent to solving phi(n) + phi(n + phi(n)) = n, and that every solution is, for some l >= 1, either n = 2^l times one of {1, 3, 5, 7, 35, 47} or n = 2^l (8m+7) or 2^l (6m+5) where 8m+7 >= 10^{10} is prime with phi(6m+5) = 4m+4. The only primes 8m+7 with phi(6m+5) = 4m+4 found are 7 and 47 (m = 0, 5), and a computer search finds no other up to 10^{10}, so the six explicit families are possibly the complete list; the paper also notes the related question whether phi(n)/n = 2/3+2/(3n) has infinitely many solutions, with n = 5, 35, 1295, 1679615 known. The method is elementary: track the 2-adic structure of the orbit under g and solve the resulting phi equation via the ansatz q = 6m+5. The paper addresses Erdos problem #411 (iterates of n + phi(n)), as it states on p. 1; it says nothing about Problem 414 (iterates of n + tau(n)). Its remarks under "The bigger picture" (p. 2) report, from a quick search and without proof, many further relations of the form g_{k+r}(n) = c g_k(n), mostly with r = 9 and r = 25 (for instance g_{k+20}(385) = 6561 g_k(385) and g_{k+14}(3393) = 729 g_k(3393)).

Source: https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.08023.

Bears on. #411: the Theorem treats the shift r = 2 only. It shows that g_{k+2}(n) = 2 g_k(n) holds from step k on exactly when g_k(n) solves phi(m) + phi(m + phi(m)) = m (Section 2.1), and confines every solution to the two branches; with the solutions of Sections 2.2 and 2.10 this identifies the solutions whose odd part lies in {1, 3, 5, 7, 35, 47}. Whether the second branch has a member, which n reach a solution, and every other shift r are left open. If the equation of the related question on p. 1 had only its four known solutions, the second branch would be empty; the paper proves nothing about that question.

Results. Theorem (p. 1, unnumbered; proof pp. 2-7, with the computer search on p. 7); the question on phi(n)/n = 2/3 + 2/(3n) (pp. 1-2, unnumbered).

Read status. Claims checked for the two results above, read clause by clause on the print; the proof was read for its structure, and the computer search was not rerun.

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