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Problem 11 (printed pp. 226--227), the first of the paper's "few recent finite problems", considered by Bruce Rothschild and Erdős.

The function f(n;c)f(n;c) (p. 226). Let G(n;e)G(n;e) be a graph with nn vertices and ee edges, e≥cn2e\ge cn^2, in which every edge lies in at least one triangle. f(n;c)f(n;c) is the guaranteed number: every such graph has an edge lying in at least f(n;c)f(n;c) triangles. The print calls it "the smallest integer" with this property; the integer meant is the largest, since every smaller integer also has the property. The problem is to estimate f(n;c)f(n;c) as well as possible. The print records that Noga Alon showed f(n;c)<αcnf(n;c)<\alpha_c\sqrt n and that Szemerédi observed that his regularity lemma implies f(n;c)→∞f(n;c)\to\infty for every c>0c>0, and asks, quoted: "Is it true that f(n;c)>nεf(n;c)>n^\varepsilon (or at least f(n;c)>log⁡nf(n;c)>\log n)?"

The function e(n,r)e(n,r) (pp. 226--227). More generally, e(n,r)e(n,r) is the smallest integer such that every G(n;e(n,r))G(n;e(n,r)) in which each edge lies in at least one triangle has an edge lying in at least rr triangles. The print records that Ruzsa and Szemerédi proved

cnr3(n)<e(n;2)=o(n2),cnr_3(n)<e(n;2)=o(n^2),

where r3(n)r_3(n) is the largest size of a set of integers below nn with no three-term arithmetic progression (the print's oo is set as σ\sigma), and that e(n;r)=o(n2)e(n;r)=o(n^2) for every rr "as stated previously". It closes, quoted: "Probably e(n;r+1)−e(n;r)→∞e(n;r+1)-e(n;r)\to\infty. But perhaps e(n;r+1)/e(n;r)→1e(n;r+1)/e(n;r)\to1." It cites I. Ruzsa and E. Szemerédi, Triple systems with no three points carrying three triangles, Coll. Math. Soc. J. Bolyai 18, Combinatorics, 939--945; Problem 600's reference list gives the title with "six points".

Source. P. Erdős, Some problems on finite and infinite graphs, Logic and Combinatorics (Arcata, Calif., 1985), Contemp. Math. 65, Amer. Math. Soc. (1987), 223--228; Problem 11, pp. 226--227, PDF pp. 4--5 of the Rényi archive's scan (printed p. nn = PDF p. n−222n-222), read on the rendered page images. The edition read is identified in the source digest.

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Bears on

  • Problem 80: f(n;c)f(n;c) is this problem's fc(n)f_c(n), read as the largest guaranteed number, and the quoted question is its pair of "in particular" questions (the site's key [Er87]). The paper reports Alon's upper bound and Szemerédi's f(n;c)→∞f(n;c)\to\infty.
  • Problem 600: e(n,r)e(n,r) is this problem's function and the closing two guesses are its two questions. The paper reports the Ruzsa--Szemerédi bounds on e(n;2)e(n;2) and e(n;r)=o(n2)e(n;r)=o(n^2), and no result on the questions.