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With g(b,r)g(b,r) the least aa such that a→(b,b)ra\to(b,b)^r, and a∗b=aba*b=a^b evaluated from the right (printed p. 139), the paper states after 16.4:

"It is reasonable to conjecture that, in fact,

g(b,3)≥22c3bg(b,3)\ge2^{2^{c_3b}}

for some absolute real constant c3>0c_3>0 and that, more generally,

(1)g(b,r)≥2∗2∗∗2∗(crb)(r "factors")(1)\qquad g(b,r)\ge2*2**2*(c_rb)\qquad(r\ \text{"factors"})

for some real positive crc_r which is independent of bb."

The first display is the statement of Problem 564 with R3(b)=g(b,3)R_3(b)=g(b,3). The page continues: "By means of the methods of section 14 we can prove the following 'stepping-up' lemma. Lemma 6. There is a real number c≥1/10c\ge1/10 such that g(b,r)≥2∗(cg(b,r−1))g(b,r)\ge2*(cg(b,r-1)) for r>4r>4." Then: "Using this lemma we can deduce from 16.2 that for r≥3r\ge3

g(b,r)≥2∗2∗∗2∗(12cr−3b)(r−1 "factors").g(b,r)\ge2*2**2*(\tfrac12c^{r-3}b)\qquad(r-1\ \text{"factors"}).

This result approaches the conjecture (1) but a big gap still exists in the case r=3r=3 between the conjecture and the established estimate. Since these results are obviously not final we omit the proofs."

The range of Lemma 6 is printed "for r>4r>4" (a plain ">>", unlike the "≥\ge" glyphs beside it, checked on a 300 dpi crop). The deduction that follows starts from 16.2 (r=2r=2) and needs the lemma from r=4r=4 on to reach the displayed tower of height r−1r-1, so the intended range appears to be r≥4r\ge4; the page records the text as printed. Stepping up from r−1=2r-1=2 to r=3r=3 is not covered by the lemma, which is why the r=3r=3 case remains at the single-exponential 16.4.

Source. P. Erdős, A. Hajnal and R. Rado, Partition relations for cardinal numbers, Acta Math. Acad. Sci. Hungar. 16 (1965), 93--196; printed p. 140 (PDF p. 48 of the scan), read on the page image with 300 dpi crops. The scan's text layer is garbled.

Read depth. Claims checked: the conjecture, display (1), Lemma 6, the deduced bound and the closing remark were read clause by clause on the page image. The paper omits every proof of the section; nothing is proof-checked.

Proof pointer

None: a conjecture, and a lemma whose proof the paper omits ("by means of the methods of section 14").

Dependencies

Lemma 6 and the deduced bound rest on 16.2 (g(b,2)≥2b/2g(b,2)\ge2^{b/2}, Erdős 1947, the paper's [9]) and on the omitted stepping-up argument.

Bears on

  • Problem 564: the problem's own statement in its 1965 wording, together with the authors' record that the r=3r=3 case is where the gap between conjecture and estimate remains.
  • Problem 562: the general conjecture (1), a tower of height rr with top crbc_rb as a lower bound for g(b,r)g(b,r), is the problem's statement in its 1965 wording for every r≥3r\ge3; the deduced bound below it is a tower of height r−1r-1, whose (r−1)(r-1)-fold iterated logarithm is log⁡2(12cr−3b)\log_2(\tfrac12c^{r-3}b), of order log⁡b\log b, so for every r≥3r\ge3 the 1965 estimate leaves the problem's lower side at order log⁡n\log n against the conjectured order nn.