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Integral lower bound for the Lebesgue function


Statement

Setting (p. 191). For each nn the nodes are

−1≤x1,n<x2,n<⋯<xn,n≤1,(1)-1\le x_{1,n}<x_{2,n}<\cdots<x_{n,n}\le1, \tag{1}

written xk=xk,nx_k=x_{k,n}; with ω(x)=∏k=1n(x−xk)\omega(x)=\prod_{k=1}^n(x-x_k) the fundamental polynomials are

lk(x)=ω(x)ω′(xk)(x−xk)(k=1,…,n),l_k(x)=\frac{\omega(x)}{\omega'(x_k)(x-x_k)}\qquad(k=1,\ldots,n),

and for −1≤a<b≤1-1\le a<b\le1

λn(a,b)=max⁡a≤x≤b∑k=1n∣lk(x)∣.\lambda_n(a,b)=\max_{a\le x\le b}\sum_{k=1}^n|l_k(x)|.

Theorem (p. 191, unnumbered, displayed as (4)). For every system of nodes (1) and every subinterval [a,b][a,b] of [−1,1][-1,1],

∫ab∑k=1n∣lk(x)∣ dx≥c3(b−a)log⁡n(n≥n2(a,b)).(4)\int_a^b\sum_{k=1}^n|l_k(x)|\,dx\ge c_3(b-a)\log n \qquad(n\ge n_2(a,b)). \tag{4}

Here c3c_3 is an absolute positive constant (footnote 1, p. 191: the lettered constants c1,c2,…c_1,c_2,\ldots are absolute positive constants) and the threshold is written n2(a,b)n_2(a,b), a function of the interval alone, so it does not depend on the nodes. The paper gives no value of c3c_3 in the statement; its last display (p. 195) gives (b−a)log⁡n/40(b-a)\log n/40.

The paper says (p. 191) that Bernstein's local bound (3), λn(a,b)≥c2log⁡n\lambda_n(a,b)\ge c_2\log n for n≥n1(a,b)n\ge n_1(a,b), follows from the theorem as a corollary, and that the case a=−1a=-1, b=1b=1 was announced in P. Erdős, Problems and results on the theory of interpolation. II, Acta Math. Acad. Sci. Hungar. 12 (1961), 235--244. The corollary is immediate: the integral in (4) is at most (b−a)λn(a,b)(b-a)\lambda_n(a,b), so (4) gives λn(a,b)≥c3log⁡n\lambda_n(a,b)\ge c_3\log n for n≥n2(a,b)n\ge n_2(a,b).

Closing remark (p. 195): "The best constants in (2) and (3) are (roughly speaking) 2/π2/\pi." The authors add that their c3c_3 is apparently far from best possible and that their method does not seem suited to finding the largest c3c_3.

Source. P. Erdős and J. Szabados, On the integral of the Lebesgue function of interpolation, Acta Math. Acad. Sci. Hungar. 32 (1--2) (1978), 191--195: the setting and the theorem on p. 191, Case 1 on p. 192, the [[polynomials/erdos_szabados_1978_integral_lebesgue_function_interpolation/node_gap_lemma|node gap lemma]] on pp. 192--193, Case 2 on pp. 192--195. The edition read is identified on the [[polynomials/erdos_szabados_1978_integral_lebesgue_function_interpolation/_index|source card]].

Read depth. Claims checked: the statement, its quantifiers and the closing remark were read clause by clause on the printed pages. Proof verified, conditional on three external inputs (see Dependencies): the printed argument was read step by step; its late part has the defects listed below, and the theorem with c3=1/256c_3=1/256 is proved by the two companions named there, each separately reviewed. The composed chain, with this page and both companions as they stood on 2026-09-18T07:24:04Z, passed the fresh full-chain review, graded PASS for contract and independence by its distinct grade on 2026-09-18. The earlier full-chain review of 2026-09-06 is retained but void as an independent warrant for the composition, after a 2026-09-18 ruling that its delivered candidates carried the companions' earlier-review verdicts. No review credits the printed 1/401/40 or the coefficient 2/π2/\pi.

Proof pointer

Pages 192--195, in two cases.

Case 1, λn(a,b)≥n3\lambda_n(a,b)\ge n^3 (p. 192). At a point where the maximum is attained, a signed sum of the lkl_k is a polynomial of degree less than nn that equals the maximum there and is dominated by ∑k∣lk∣\sum_k|l_k| on [a,b][a,b]. Markov's inequality keeps it above half the maximum on an interval of length of order (b−a)/n2(b-a)/n^2, so the integral is at least of order (b−a)n(b-a)n, more than (4) needs.

Case 2, λn(a,b)<n3\lambda_n(a,b)<n^3 (pp. 192--195). The node gap lemma makes every gap between consecutive nodes in [a,b][a,b] at most 75log⁡n/n75\log n/n. The integral is bounded below by the contributions of adjacent pairs ∣lk∣+∣lk+1∣|l_k|+|l_{k+1}| over the gaps between consecutive nodes in [a,b][a,b]. For two such gaps, an affine map between them and the Erdős--Turán inequality lk(y)+lk+1(y)≥1l_k(y)+l_{k+1}(y)\ge1 on [xk,xk+1][x_k,x_{k+1}] give a lower bound for each pair; adding a pair to its mirror image removes the ratio of ω\omega values. This leaves, up to an absolute factor, a double sum of Δxm Δxk/(xk+1−xm)\Delta x_m\,\Delta x_k/(x_{k+1}-x_m) with Δxk=xk+1−xk\Delta x_k=x_{k+1}-x_k, displayed as (8) (p. 194). For each gap in the left half of [a,b][a,b], grouping the later gaps into blocks of length 75log⁡n/n75\log n/n makes the inner sum at least a harmonic sum of order log⁡n\log n (p. 195), and the outer sum of the Δxm\Delta x_m is of order b−ab-a.

Defects in the printed late argument (an observation of this page).

  1. In both (7) and (8) the triangular sum is printed with k=mk=m allowed. The preceding half-sum over all pairs contains each diagonal term with weight 1/21/2, whereas the triangular symmetrization counts it in full; and the ratio computation on p. 194 assumes two distinct ordered gaps, so it does not cover the diagonal.
  2. The claim that the first and last nodes in [a,b][a,b] tend to aa and bb is justified only parenthetically (p. 193). The intervals It,mI_{t,m} of p. 194 can extend beyond bb for the largest tt in the displayed range; the direct bound for the denominators is (t+2)75log⁡n/n(t+2)75\log n/n, not the printed (t+1)75log⁡n/n(t+1)75\log n/n; and the final grouping by three consecutive intervals (p. 195) is not written as a disjoint selection.

A compilation-authored [[polynomials/erdos_szabados_1978_integral_lebesgue_function_interpolation/finite_symmetrization_correction|finite symmetrization correction]] treats the diagonal and off-diagonal terms separately and proves the analog of (8) with prefactor 1/161/16 in place of 1/81/8; it passed the diagonal review, whose scope is that finite step only. A compilation-authored [[polynomials/erdos_szabados_1978_integral_lebesgue_function_interpolation/endpoint_harmonic_completion|endpoint and harmonic-block completion]] proves the end-gap control, uses disjoint blocks and the shifted denominators, includes Case 1, and concludes (4) with c3=1/256c_3=1/256 under an explicit threshold; it passed the late-proof review without author changes. Neither companion is text of the paper or an author's erratum. The printed 1/401/40 is not verified here; a repaired proof may use a smaller absolute constant without changing (4).

Dependencies

  • The same paper's [[polynomials/erdos_szabados_1978_integral_lebesgue_function_interpolation/node_gap_lemma|node gap lemma]] (5), for Case 2.
  • Bernstein's local bound (3), quoted on p. 191 from S. Bernstein, Sur la limitation des valeurs d'un polynome, Bull. Acad. Sci. de l'URSS 8 (1931), 1025--1050, through the node gap lemma.
  • Markov's inequality for the derivative of a polynomial on an interval, used in Case 1; the paper gives no reference for it.
  • The adjacent-polynomial inequality lk(y)+lk+1(y)≥1l_k(y)+l_{k+1}(y)\ge1 for xk≤y≤xk+1x_k\le y\le x_{k+1}, cited on p. 194 as Lemma IV of P. Erdős and P. Turán, On interpolation. III, Ann. of Math. 41 (1940), 510--552; see [[polynomials/erdos_turan_1940_on_interpolation_iii/lemma_iv_adjacent_fundamental_polynomials|Lemma IV and its increasing-node form]].

The proofs of Bernstein's bound and Markov's inequality are outside the reviews recorded here; the Erdős--Turán input has its own reviewed reconstruction.

Bears on

  • Problem 1153: the problem asks whether, for every fixed −1≤a<b≤1-1\le a<b\le1, max⁡[a,b]λ>(2/π−o(1))log⁡n\max_{[a,b]}\lambda>(2/\pi-o(1))\log n. Theorem (4) gives, through the corollary above, max⁡[a,b]λ≥c3log⁡n\max_{[a,b]}\lambda\ge c_3\log n for n≥n2(a,b)n\ge n_2(a,b) with an unspecified absolute c3>0c_3>0, which is the logarithmic order of the question without its coefficient 2/π2/\pi. The paper does not prove the bound with coefficient 2/π2/\pi, and says its method does not seem suited to finding the best constant.