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Statement
Setting (p. 52). The paper defines as the largest integer such that any set of points in the plane, no three on a line, contains at least convex subsets, a question it says it raised with J. Hammer. It thinks an exact formula for unlikely.
Inequality 2 (pp. 52--53). The paper proves that there are two constants and such that
The print states no range of for (2).
Input (p. 53). Both bounds rest on the Erdős-Szekeres bounds for , the smallest integer such that any points, no three on a line, contain the vertices of a convex -gon, which the paper states as its inequality (3), saying Szekeres and Erdős proved it; its reference list gives their papers in Compositio Math. 2 (1935) and Ann. Univ. Sci. Budapest 3--4 (1961). The print sets (3) as ; the bounds of those papers are , so the left side is a misprint for and the right side omits the . The paper also records Szekeres's conjecture that equality holds on the left of (3).
The upper bound (p. 53). The paper takes a set of points, no three on a line, with no convex subset of more than points, and says (3) guarantees that such a set exists. Every convex subset of it has at most points, so .
The lower bound (p. 53). With , the upper bound in (3) gives every -point subset a convex subset of size with . Counting these over all subsets of size , and noting that a fixed -set lies in exactly of them, gives .
Source. P. Erdős, Some more problems on elementary geometry, Austral. Math. Soc. Gaz. 5 (1978), no. 2, 52--54: the definition of on p. 52, inequality (2) set at the top of p. 53, inequality (3) and both proofs on p. 53. The edition read is identified on the source card.
Read depth. Claims checked: the definition, inequalities (2) and (3) and both arguments were read clause by clause on the page images of pp. 52--53; the final estimates in each argument were read for structure, not checked step by step.
Proof pointer
Page 53, as summarized above: an Erdős-Szekeres set with no large convex subset for the upper bound, and an averaging over subsets of size for the lower bound.
Dependencies
The Erdős-Szekeres bounds on (the paper's (3)), cited from Erdős and Szekeres 1935 and 1961.
Bears on
- Problem 838: the problem asks to estimate the same , in particular whether tends to a constant. For each at which (2) holds, it says exactly that this ratio lies strictly between and ; it does not decide whether the limit exists. The paper's guess that it does is conjecture_p53.