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Statement
Setting (p. 52). Points in the plane are in general position when no three lie on a line and no four on a circle. The paper recalls its 1975 question: for every , is there an such that among any points in general position one can always find of them all of whose triples determine circles of different radii.
Inequality 1 (p. 52). The paper asserts that a simple argument gives
which would make exist for every . It adds that (1) is probably very far from best possible.
The argument as printed (p. 52), in outline. Take points in general position and a maximal subset all of whose triples determine circles of different radii, and suppose . The paper asserts that maximality gives, for each remaining point , a circle through and two points of the subset whose radius is one of the radii already occurring among the subset's triples. At most two circles of a given radius pass through two given points, so the remaining points lie on at most circles, and general position puts at most one of them on each such circle. Hence , a contradiction. The print writes for the number of remaining points, where is meant.
The gap. Adding to a maximal subset can also fail because two new triples through determine circles of the same radius, a coincidence the argument does not treat. Martínez and Roldán-Pensado identify this case in Section 2 of their note, as recorded on the source card of their paper, and repair the argument with Bézout's theorem, proving under a weaker general-position condition. The bound (1) itself is therefore unproved by this paper.
Source. P. Erdős, Some more problems on elementary geometry, Austral. Math. Soc. Gaz. 5 (1978), no. 2, 52--54: the question, inequality (1) and its argument on p. 52. The edition read is identified on the source card.
Read depth. Claims checked: the definition, the inequality and the argument were read clause by clause on the page image of p. 52. The gap is reported from the Martínez and Roldán-Pensado source card, not from a reading of their paper here.
Proof pointer
Page 52, the paragraph after (1), as outlined above; the argument is incomplete for the reason given under The gap.
Dependencies
None beyond elementary facts: at most two circles of a given radius pass through two given points.
Bears on
- Problem 827: the problem asks for the value of under the same general-position condition. The paper claims the upper bound (1), which would show that exists; the argument is incomplete, and the problem page records no claim for it. Existence and a polynomial bound come from the later Martínez and Roldán-Pensado paper.